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Post by JohnnyD on Dec 2, 2021 11:55:49 GMT 1
Chef sentenced after one killed and 31 left ill by undercooked shepherd’s pie
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Post by ForumUser2 on Dec 2, 2021 14:14:57 GMT 1
You should only make a shepherd's pie with real shepherds.
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Post by beejay on Dec 2, 2021 14:57:44 GMT 1
Chef sentenced after one killed and 31 left ill by undercooked shepherd’s pie
A tragic event but to use kill suggests intent. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2021 15:12:36 GMT 1
On the positive side he says he’s now “become a better chef” instead of the unprofessional, lazy, incompetent, slack arse jerk he was at the time of the incident.
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Post by Veem on Dec 2, 2021 17:15:32 GMT 1
On the positive side he says he’s now “become a better chef” instead of the unprofessional, lazy, incompetent, slack arse jerk he was at the time of the incident. Do you have inside information? Please share. |
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Post by FFS on Dec 2, 2021 18:23:14 GMT 1
Chef sentenced after one killed and 31 left ill by undercooked shepherd’s pie
A tragic event but to use kill suggests intent. I thought similarly; "died" instead of "was killed" would have been a better use of words. |
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Post by exile on Dec 2, 2021 20:13:47 GMT 1
I think we are playing semantics.
Would you say that a child died of a series of dog bites, or that a child was killed by an out of control dog?
The latter I suspect - and if so why not killed in this case? It is just that the assailant is a lot smaller - e-coli.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2021 21:13:01 GMT 1
On the positive side he says he’s now “become a better chef” instead of the unprofessional, lazy, incompetent, slack arse jerk he was at the time of the incident. Do you have inside information? Please share. No inside information it’s all there to see, he tells the court he’s now a better chef. His unprofessional, lazy, incompetent attitude to his work is self evident. |
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Post by beejay on Dec 4, 2021 17:05:12 GMT 1
I think we are playing semantics. Would you say that a child died of a series of dog bites, or that a child was killed by an out of control dog? The latter I suspect - and if so why not killed in this case? It is just that the assailant is a lot smaller - e-coli.
Of course it's semantics and how one chooses to use a word.
The verb to kill can imply intention. The reporter was being dramatic - unnecessarily so in my view.
An attacking dog intends to harm a chef doesn't.
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Post by ForumUser2 on Dec 4, 2021 17:24:05 GMT 1
I think we are playing semantics. Would you say that a child died of a series of dog bites, or that a child was killed by an out of control dog? The latter I suspect - and if so why not killed in this case? It is just that the assailant is a lot smaller - e-coli.
Of course it's semantics and how one chooses to use a word.
The verb to kill can imply intention. The reporter was being dramatic - unnecessarily so in my view.
An attacking dog intends to harm a chef doesn't.
You could argue while she died because of the chef's incompetence she was killed by C Perfringens. |
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Post by FFS on Dec 4, 2021 17:25:55 GMT 1
It's always better to cook your mince than mince your cook.
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Post by exile on Dec 4, 2021 22:47:37 GMT 1
I think we are playing semantics. Would you say that a child died of a series of dog bites, or that a child was killed by an out of control dog? The latter I suspect - and if so why not killed in this case? It is just that the assailant is a lot smaller - e-coli.
Of course it's semantics and how one chooses to use a word.
The verb to kill can imply intention. The reporter was being dramatic - unnecessarily so in my view.
An attacking dog intends to harm a chef doesn't.
It does not say the chef killed them. It implies that E-coli did. E-coli does kill but as a non sentient bacterium can we say it is intentional? Killed by malaria. Killed by Aids Killed by Covid you takes your money and.... |
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Post by ForumUser2 on Dec 4, 2021 23:06:45 GMT 1
Incidentally, another positive of lockdown was the reduction in hospital admissions for food poisoning.
Which has to say something about the standard of food hygiene at home compared to eating out.
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Post by ForumUser2 on Dec 4, 2021 23:09:14 GMT 1
Of course it's semantics and how one chooses to use a word.
The verb to kill can imply intention. The reporter was being dramatic - unnecessarily so in my view.
An attacking dog intends to harm a chef doesn't.
It does not say the chef killed them. It implies that E-coli did. E-coli does kill but as a non sentient bacterium can we say it is intentional? Killed by malaria. Killed by Aids Killed by Covid you takes your money and.... I think it was Clostridium Perfringens in this outbreak. More common but less serious than E Coli except in the elderly where C Perfringens is not nice at all. |
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Post by exile on Dec 5, 2021 0:19:04 GMT 1
I stand corrected on the pathogen but not the argument
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