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Post by landmannnn on Dec 16, 2021 23:27:46 GMT 1
Vaccinated person - virus encountered and immune response destroys it. Unvaccinated - virus encountered, host becomes one big cultivation medium ready to send the virus onward. It's not quite as simple as that, but nearly. My thinking was if I'm vaccinated, I'm less likely to catch it badly and therefore less likely to pass it on to someone else, which is how the vaccine protects both me and others. Roughly similar to your first line. And of course means you are not going to be filling up hospital beds meaning that cancer patients die at home waiting
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Post by woolybanana on Dec 16, 2021 23:33:51 GMT 1
11,000 beds in NHS blocked by patients ready to be discharged, thousands of private beds unused plus whatever happened to the Nightingales? A manufactured problem maybe?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 23:52:34 GMT 1
The Nightingales were good in theory,practically not so good
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Post by exile on Dec 17, 2021 0:34:45 GMT 1
Nightingale was a lone nurse - that seems to be the manning levels applied to the Nightingale hospitals. There was simply not the staff to run them and keep the rest of the NHS running.
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Post by pcpa on Dec 17, 2021 0:46:01 GMT 1
Did any of them ever get used?
The one in London gave a lot of work to partitioning fixers and suppliers of beds, medical equipment etc but I don't recall reading that it was ever in use.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 9:04:38 GMT 1
The Manchester one got used but as an escalation hospital and not as it was originally intended
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Post by ForumUser2 on Dec 17, 2021 9:42:15 GMT 1
Well, there's a funny thing. Like JohnnyD I did all the required online courses last December to register as a vaccinator. And like many retired HCWs felt a bit insulted by having to do so (retired Dr's, nurses, dentists, vets etc were required to waste about 30 hours of their lives on these meaningless "lessons"). Many retired HCWs thought "sod that".
JohnnyD did his through St John's Ambulance and became an unpaid volunteer. OTOH, I went through the NHS route (a mistake) and was contacted to take shifts but never got replies from the HR Dept.
Last night got email asking if I wanted to do shifts! So 11 months after the first approach to me...
Is this just another example of on-the-hoof administrative incompetence and the need to box-tick? Probably, and I've said yes, but there wouldn't have been the need for a sudden panic to increase the vaccine roll-out if willing people weren't naffed-off in the first place.
When the dust settles and the waste in terms of Nightingales, inappropriate PPE contracts, inadequate clinical manpower and facilities etc I think we'll find that things haven't been anywhere near as slick and well-managed as the govt might have us believe.
Final thought: the Nightingales were always a white elephant. There was no way of magicking up the appropriate staff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 9:53:13 GMT 1
I noticed yesterday they seem to be expanding my local testing centre
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Post by flober on Dec 17, 2021 9:54:15 GMT 1
no idea what HCW or HR sept is
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 9:57:21 GMT 1
I think at least one is a mistype
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Post by Seaboots on Dec 17, 2021 11:52:17 GMT 1
no idea what HCW or HR sept is I’m guessing HCW either means Horrible Conservative Wankers or Health Care Workers and HR sept could be Harry Redknapp or Helen Reddy septic or indeed Human Resources dept.
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Post by ForumUser2 on Dec 17, 2021 12:39:33 GMT 1
no idea what HCW or HR sept is Health Care Worker Human Resources Dept(typo)
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Post by woolybanana on Dec 17, 2021 12:46:50 GMT 1
NHS clearly paralysed by bureaucracy, it seems. Time for a few heads to work elsewhere, perhaps and make way for frontline staff
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Post by Seaboots on Dec 17, 2021 12:59:16 GMT 1
How about if Boris does something really radical by sacking Chris Witty ?
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Post by Aardvark on Dec 17, 2021 13:12:41 GMT 1
Then that would leave a ship lacking both a rudder and a compass.
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