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Post by david on Jan 1, 2022 19:01:32 GMT 1
I told you I was losing it!
what does one call the UK windows where there is a small window above your main window?
Wife and I think the French system is rubbish. Here if you want fresh air you have to open the whole window inwards. They could easily combine the English style. We do not want a ruddy gale even in summer but flipping handy the whole year.
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Post by ajm on Jan 1, 2022 19:15:21 GMT 1
They are called casement windows.
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Post by ibis on Jan 1, 2022 19:25:00 GMT 1
I told you I was losing it! what does one call the UK windows where there is a small window above your main window? Wife and I think the French system is rubbish. Here if you want fresh air you have to open the whole window inwards. They could easily combine the English style. We do not want a ruddy gale even in summer but flipping handy the whole year. I have seen either side ways sliding or up and down sliding windows there in France for sale..
There are even windows which you mention (open the whole window inwards) but also tilt inward just at the top.. |
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Post by FFS on Jan 1, 2022 20:47:09 GMT 1
I thought the post was going to be about the computer operating system.
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Post by FFS on Jan 1, 2022 20:57:01 GMT 1
On a more thread-related note...you don't have to open French windows completely towards the inside, there are things which allow you to keep them half open. And think of high winds: if you have English-style windows, opening outwards, a strong gust of wind could slam them shut and break the glass, the same wouldn't happen with French-style windows opening inwards.
You think the French system is rubbish because you didn't grow up with it; many French no doubt think the English system is equally rubbish.
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Post by pcpa on Jan 1, 2022 22:06:52 GMT 1
All the windows I have fitted 22 here and a few more in the UK have been bought in France most of them achieve what you want, some in exactly the way you describe.
Oscillo-battants (tilt & turn) allow you to open the window inwards partially for ventilation without the risk of the vantails blowing open, I have also fitted battants above the double inward opening windows, they are sold in the same width, are hinged from the bottom to open inwards as opposed to the UK ones that open outwards from the top, it is a very economic way of getting a window with 3 openers, the vantails and one top battant (sorry, don't know the English terms) using cheap standard off the shelf bricodepot units.
I also use the kit volet roulants above with the coffret inside and rails on the outside (PU glued so no visible fixings) when its all assembled and installed it looks exactly like one made to measure monobloc unit at a fraction of the price.
The French window system has several real advantages over the UK one, you can clean all the windows from the inside, you can lift off each vantail, you can fit the window from inside without needing ladders and hang the vantails after fixing the frames, you can stand on the deep windowcill to make the outside sealant joint. Finally you can have shutters be they traditional or volet roulants, these allow the windows to be open for ventilation whilst shading the room.
Disadvantage, you don't have an inside windowcill for knick knacks although you can have a reasonable one if you have 10cm or more insulation and if you use oscillo-battants you can stand your tat on them!
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Post by Aardvark on Jan 1, 2022 22:09:15 GMT 1
The English system is certainly rubbish when you want to clean the upstairs windows. Usually a ladder job. With French ones opening inwards it is much easier and safer. There are some mad ideas here in France but the windows are not on the list.
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Post by Polarengineer on Jan 2, 2022 7:24:19 GMT 1
That got me thinking oddsock, what are the French mad ideas to which you refer?
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Post by landmannnn on Jan 2, 2022 9:40:26 GMT 1
The small opening window above the main window is called a fan light.
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Post by ajm on Jan 2, 2022 9:45:32 GMT 1
The small opening window above the main window is called a fan light. Only if it is fan-shaped. |
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Post by Dominic Best on Jan 2, 2022 9:55:12 GMT 1
The French system? I wonder what the Germans, Austrians, Swiss, Dutch, Italians and others who use inward opening and tilting windows would think of that.
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Post by annabellespapa on Jan 2, 2022 11:05:58 GMT 1
I attach a small chain to each upstairs window in France, a bit like a key chain for your front door (from the 70's), it will partially open the windows inwards and you can select the amount of air you want coming in, if it is a child's bedroom you can fix it that the windows can open inwards but never fully opened that they could fall out.
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Post by houpla on Jan 2, 2022 11:28:36 GMT 1
Disadvantage, you don't have an inside windowcill for knick knacks although you can have a reasonable one if you have 10cm or more insulation and if you use oscillo-battants you can stand your tat on them!
Oi! Not everyone used to use windowsills for tat! They were extremely useful for propagators and plants  |
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Post by Polarengineer on Jan 2, 2022 11:31:24 GMT 1
My windows don't fall out when fully open, so what sort have you got?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 11:36:10 GMT 1
The small opening window above the main window is called a fan light. Only if it is fan-shaped. Originally that was the case and hence the name, but nowadays what landman says is correct although more accurately its above a door. PI ture windows are a pane to clean. 😉 |
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