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Post by FFS on Jan 17, 2022 20:38:08 GMT 1
French and Swiss producers of Gruyère are up in arms after an American court ruled that American producers can name their cheese Gruyère.
Taste and type of cheese aside, doesn't cheddar fall into the same category? American-produced cheddar is produced in America, English, Irish, and Scottish cheddar is produced in England, Ireland, and Scotland.
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Post by ajm on Jan 17, 2022 20:46:53 GMT 1
Sacrilege!!
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Post by houpla on Jan 17, 2022 21:42:03 GMT 1
It would perhaps be more accurate to label the fakes 'Gruyère type/Cheddar type' etc. In fact even French Gruyère and Emmenthal are open to debate...weren't they Swiss originally?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2022 22:44:25 GMT 1
It would perhaps be more accurate to label the fakes 'Gruyère type/Cheddar type' etc. In fact even French Gruyère and Emmenthal are open to debate...weren't they Swiss originally? The difference with Cheddar is that originally it was cheese making families from Cheddar who took the name, the process and the skills away with them to pastures new and with the passage of time the opportunity to apply geographical protection passed. Thank heaven's they did. Not all cheddars are created equal. |
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Post by exile on Jan 18, 2022 0:46:38 GMT 1
Indeed they are not all the same. I have had German Cheddar - not an experience I will rush to repeat.
But Gouda is a cheese with protection but the difference in qualities depending where you buy it is enormous. UK - tends to be a waxy fairly tasteless experience (much akin to German Cheddar). Dutch Gouda teds to be less waxy and a much stronger taste. France you can buy Gouda - tending towards the waxy tasteless end of the spectrum and old Gouda which is much more like the Dutch cheese I have enjoyed. German Gouda tends to be a bit between those two. But al of this Gouda comes from a small area of the Netherlands.
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Post by ibis on Jan 18, 2022 2:17:04 GMT 1
My vote is for Wisconsin Cheddar... One of the original clan must have migrated there as it is the "bomb"..
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Post by ibis on Jan 18, 2022 3:27:06 GMT 1
Sorry, did not read the article but who was the original complainant or was it a group thing? That might revile why it was turned down. 99% of any case in America will go against the French..
It does not really matter as an typical american will just call it "swiss" cheese..
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Post by spectrum on Jan 18, 2022 8:21:55 GMT 1
To make "Cheddar" cheese they use a differant process to other cheese makers, its called "Cheddaring" unique to the area.
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Post by FFS on Jan 18, 2022 10:27:35 GMT 1
But Gouda is a cheese with protection but the difference in qualities depending where you buy it is enormous. UK - tends to be a waxy fairly tasteless experience (much akin to German Cheddar). Dutch Gouda tends to be less waxy and a much stronger taste. France you can buy Gouda - tending towards the waxy tasteless end of the spectrum and old Gouda which is much more like the Dutch cheese I have enjoyed. German Gouda tends to be a bit between those two. But all of this Gouda comes from a small area of the Netherlands. If it all comes from a small area of the Netherlands, why the different tastes? |
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Post by Seaboots on Jan 18, 2022 10:29:00 GMT 1
You on holiday FFS ?
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Post by FFS on Jan 18, 2022 10:39:12 GMT 1
Arrêt de travail, back problems. |
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Post by Seaboots on Jan 18, 2022 11:12:25 GMT 1
Blast, sorry to hear that. I didn’t réalise chickens were so heavy ?
Bon récupération.
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Post by exile on Jan 18, 2022 13:42:29 GMT 1
But Gouda is a cheese with protection but the difference in qualities depending where you buy it is enormous. UK - tends to be a waxy fairly tasteless experience (much akin to German Cheddar). Dutch Gouda tends to be less waxy and a much stronger taste. France you can buy Gouda - tending towards the waxy tasteless end of the spectrum and old Gouda which is much more like the Dutch cheese I have enjoyed. German Gouda tends to be a bit between those two. But all of this Gouda comes from a small area of the Netherlands. If it all comes from a small area of the Netherlands, why the different tastes? It's to do with aging and maturing FFS but you can test it yourself at the supermarket or Fromagerie. Buy some Gouda and then some vieille Gouda. The difference is much more marked than the difference between Compte raffine 6 mois and 20 mois. |
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Post by FFS on Jan 18, 2022 13:51:12 GMT 1
exile, I may have badly put my question: how can UK Gouda, Dutch Gouda, German Gouda and French Gouda all come from the same small area of the Netherlands?
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Post by exile on Jan 18, 2022 14:21:45 GMT 1
It's called export.
You may just as well ask how does Parmesan cheese end up all around the world when it is produced in such a small area of Italy.
Perhaps it is my description that is causing the problem. When I write of English Gouda, I mean Dutch Gouda sold in England - and the same for the other countries.
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