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Post by lapourtaider on Jan 22, 2022 10:52:33 GMT 1
In case anyone is interested, I now know what happens.
Last Saturday I was out shopping and received an alert. I was informed that the previous Wednesday I spent sometime with someone who subsequently tested positive for covid.
However the blurb then unhelpfully explains that the date is approximate to protect the identity of the person who was positive, not much use in identifying where you may have been contaminated.
As a fully vaccinated person I had to do a test and if negative (which it was) I could carry on my life without isolating just being extra cautious (which I am anyway).
The following days the alert continued to be refreshed and the date of possible contamination fluctuating from the Wednesday and Tuesday.
Finally today, a week later, the alert dropped off and status returned to normal.
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Post by FFS on Jan 22, 2022 17:08:52 GMT 1
However the blurb then unhelpfully explains that the date is approximate to protect the identity of the person who was positive, not much use in identifying where you may have been contaminated. I can see that that's not a lot of use. Anyway, I thought that a cas de contact was someone who'd spent at least 15 minutes in proximity to someone infected.
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Post by lapourtaider on Jan 22, 2022 17:31:07 GMT 1
As far as I am aware that is the case. The only person that I was in close contact with that wasn't someone I personally knew (and would therefore be aware of if they subsequently tested positive) was a patient we took to hospital Tuesday afternoon (for non covid reasons). He was triple vaccinated and could possibly have been asymptomatic and routinely tested at the hospital. I was in the back of the ambulance with him for 30 mins.
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Post by FFS on Jan 22, 2022 17:38:13 GMT 1
So presumably the TousAntiCovid appli has an algorithm for measuring the time it's in closish proximity to another TAC appli; not much use if the infected person isn't registered or doesn't have their phone with them, though.
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Post by lapourtaider on Jan 22, 2022 17:47:58 GMT 1
Agree entirely. Despite that,nearly 2.5 million people have been notified by the app.
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Post by pcpa on Jan 23, 2022 12:48:50 GMT 1
Let us suppose that it was the patient that you took to hospital that has been confirmed to have covid, if you did not have a smartphone with the app with you at the time would any attempt have been made to trace & notify you?
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Post by lapourtaider on Jan 23, 2022 17:47:50 GMT 1
Absolutely no idea whatsoever.
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Post by Loiseau on Jan 23, 2022 18:00:52 GMT 1
I think those automatic “pings” are smartphone to smartphone. So if your patient had his/her mobile with them then it could happen; if not, how would they know who to identify if the positive person did not know your name?
I had a "ping" in the U.K., just after Christmas, which said it related to 26 Dec. On that day, I had left the family I had been staying with for three days (none of whom had tested positive for Covid), got in my car and driven home without stopping, and spent the evening watching TV in my sitting room. So hard to see when the 2-metre contact for 20 min (which I believe are the criteria) could have been met. Then my semi-detached neighbour chanced to to mention to me a day or two later that he had his wife had had Covid over Christmas, and it occurred to me that those criteria could have been fulfilled by my being on the sofa adjacent to the party wall!
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Post by lapourtaider on Jan 23, 2022 18:06:23 GMT 1
I think those automatic “pings” are smartphone to smartphone. So if your patient had his/her mobile with them then it could happen; if not, how would they know who to identify if the positive person did not know your name? I had a "ping" in the U.K., just after Christmas, which said it related to 26 Dec. On that day, I had left the family I had been staying with for three days (none of whom had tested positive for Covid), got in my car and driven home without stopping, and spent the evening watching TV in my sitting room. So hard to see when the 2-metre contact for 20 min (which I believe are the criteria) could have been met. Then my semi-detached neighbour chanced to to mention to me a day or two later that he had his wife had had Covid over Christmas, and it occurred to me that those criteria could have been fulfilled by my being on the sofa adjacent to the party wall! Yes, they are smartphone to smartphone. I'm pretty sure they had their phone on them. I suppose through adjacent walls would meet the criteria!
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Post by plog on Jan 23, 2022 22:49:42 GMT 1
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Post by tim17 on Jan 24, 2022 18:33:42 GMT 1
The rigidity of this country is bonkers at times.
Just like LPTA my wife got 'pinged' this morning so immediately booked a test at a local pharmacie, when she got there they refused to test her because the 'contact' was ten days ago, she showed them the message she got from ToutCovid but it made no difference, she was told that she'd have to buy a 'self-test' but they didn't have any in stock for the general public, wife is therefore left with no choice but to drive to another town to get a test tomorrow.
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Post by lindalovely on Jan 24, 2022 19:04:51 GMT 1
The rigidity of this country is bonkers at times. Just like LPTA my wife got 'pinged' this morning so immediately booked a test at a local pharmacie, when she got there they refused to test her because the 'contact' was ten days ago, she showed them the message she got from ToutCovid but it made no difference, she was told that she'd have to buy a 'self-test' but they didn't have any in stock for the general public, wife is therefore left with no choice but to drive to another town to get a test tomorrow. The apps are a bit pointless to be honest, here and in the UK.. I keep mine switched on but I don't think I would pay much attention if I got pinged. It's virtually impossible at the moment not to be a contact of someone who has tested positive seeing as it is raging around everywhere. Our friends' kids have all got it at the moment. We have a few self tests which I would use if I was going out to meet people or if I had symptoms. Other than that I wouldn't bother. And yes, if you want a free test you have to be generous with the truth and say you have symptoms.
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Post by lapourtaider on Jan 24, 2022 21:45:20 GMT 1
The rigidity of this country is bonkers at times. Just like LPTA my wife got 'pinged' this morning so immediately booked a test at a local pharmacie, when she got there they refused to test her because the 'contact' was ten days ago, she showed them the message she got from ToutCovid but it made no difference, she was told that she'd have to buy a 'self-test' but they didn't have any in stock for the general public, wife is therefore left with no choice but to drive to another town to get a test tomorrow. On the app they recommend you test 2 days after a possible infection then day 4. It was already day four when I tested so I didn't bother testing again after that.
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Post by manonthemoon2 on Jan 25, 2022 0:02:24 GMT 1
I never turn my tous covid app on. Bluetooth drains my battery.
Normally only for shopping we go out. But, this last week we've been out for lunch to celebrate my birthday, and today our Pearl wedding anniversary.
Both restaurants scanned our pass sanitaires. So, should we keep the app on bluetooth all the time for the next few days?
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Post by lapourtaider on Jan 25, 2022 6:59:20 GMT 1
I leave my app on all the time. I suppose the important thing is that it was on whilst at the restaurant. Whether you will receive an alert with the app deactivated I don't know.
Edit: Wow, pinged again today. This time dated 16th, so 8 -10 days ago. Not bothering going to the pharmacy this time, just done an auto test and negative. Only unknown prolonged contact again was someone we took to hospital last Monday (non Covid related).
I'm beginning to wonder if these people are getting Covid in hospital 😀
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