FFS
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Post by FFS on Feb 4, 2022 10:30:57 GMT 1
Take the Controle with you to a garage and show it to the garagiste; if he is local enough to the CT centre he can ring and discuss what's needed.
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Post by annabellespapa on Feb 4, 2022 11:02:05 GMT 1
Take the Controle with you to a garage and show it to the garagiste; if he is local enough to the CT centre he can ring and discuss what's needed. Very good advice FFS, my Mom had a Polo which I kept serviced and MOT'd for many years until she stopped driving, it always passed the emissions which amazed me until I saw it being tested, he stuck the probe up the exhaust then put probe on the floor and then did the test, when he saw me looking he just winked.
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suein56
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Post by suein56 on Feb 4, 2022 11:09:05 GMT 1
I just got back from the CT. Failed on pollution. The guy said I need to take it to a garage and have it 'cleaned' with a product. Can anyone tell me what he means. My husband is too high on morphine to make any sense when I ask him for help. Our neighbour's camping car failed in the same way .. he took it to his garage and they 'cleaned' whatever needed to be cleaned. Result on re-testing .. a pass. So it would seem to be a fairly common occurrence.
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Post by mangetout on Feb 4, 2022 11:11:19 GMT 1
Sorry, I should have said my husband is taking morphine to control pain from his cancer, not because he's an addict.
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FFS
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Post by FFS on Feb 4, 2022 11:17:26 GMT 1
Sorry, I should have said my husband is taking morphine to control pain from his cancer, not because he's an addict. No need to explain, we knew that.
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Aardvark
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Post by Aardvark on Feb 4, 2022 11:23:22 GMT 1
And we are not here to judge. Hopefully to support regardless of the circumstances.
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Post by pcpa on Feb 4, 2022 11:50:14 GMT 1
Given your situation I suggest that you not be too concerned with the matter, you have 2 months grace where you can still drive the vehicle before submitting it for a contra visite.
Tell us more about your vehicle, is it petrol or diesel, what year and if you know it what EU emissions number, EU3, 4 or 5, but we can probably work it out from the year.
With that knowledge I can suggest what "cleaning" action (décrassage) might be required, it could simply be asking a mechanic or hoodlum to give it an Italian Tune Up (drive it like you stole it) it may respond to a fuel treatment, possibly injector cleaning or DPF cleaning/replacement.
I am assuming that you do not have a dashboard warning light for the engine or emissions, if so then the important message from me is that you are not under any pressure to resolve this quickly and it may well be very simple to do so (we need the details of your vehicle), in the worst case you can drive again for another 60 days after each contra-visite, or maybe you would have to submit and fail another CT, I'm not sure on the last point & it's probably not relevant anyway.
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Post by landmannnn on Feb 4, 2022 12:59:38 GMT 1
A clean up for a diesel would be 2 things
Clean the mass airflow sensor, they get dirty!
Run some injector cleaner through the fuel system, normally just adding product to the fuel tank.
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Post by mangetout on Feb 4, 2022 13:04:39 GMT 1
It's a Xsara Picasso 2002 diesel. Is that enough info pcpa?
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Post by exile on Feb 4, 2022 13:29:55 GMT 1
Pollution could either be the gas mixture coming out of the exhaust or soot particles. Given he has said to get things cleaned it sounds like soot in the exhaust or (if you have one) the system that burns off the soot deposits around the catalytic converter needs a burn up.
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FFS
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Post by FFS on Feb 4, 2022 13:34:10 GMT 1
mangetout, you've got enough to worry about in your life at the moment without adding to it inordinately. Take the vehicle with the failed controle to a garage and say, "it failed on this, can you fix it so it passes the contra-visite, please?"
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Post by wanderer on Feb 4, 2022 13:38:22 GMT 1
As landmannnn said, plus a hard drive at the national speed limit for 10 - 20 miles, with the retest soon after.
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Post by pcpa on Feb 4, 2022 14:24:55 GMT 1
It's a Xsara Picasso 2002 diesel. Is that enough info pcpa? Regarding the vehicle yes but to end the other well meaning but nonetheless speculation can you post what the CT failure certificate says and the measurements that are outside of the allowed parameters please?
The good news is that it will be EU3 emissions so no Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) and a simplified but still problematic EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) system. Dependant on the figures it will probably be a cheap and simple job to get through the contra visite.
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Post by mangetout on Feb 4, 2022 16:28:42 GMT 1
Thanks to everyone.
Pcpa - I'll get the info you need tomorrow. It's in the car and I've put it away after a long and tiring day (that's me, not the car!). Thank you very much for your help.
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Post by pcpa on Feb 4, 2022 16:35:38 GMT 1
No problem and remember you are fine for 2 months, it will probably be a case of doing exactly what has been suggested, taking the CT failure to a (hopefully) trusted garagiste, there is no point in them ringing the CT centre, its not they who decide what remedial action needs to be taken and if the garage needs telling then they are beyond their competence.
Hopefully with our input whatever a garage proposes you will have some understanding of and whether it seems plausible and avoid them playing parts bingo with your cheque book.
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