JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Feb 19, 2022 9:08:02 GMT 1
Would be interested to know what prices some of you are paying in France for your electricity and who the supplier is? Might be time for me to change, I am on EDF Digiwatt currently which has now gone up to 0.1755 per kWh and 11.34 per month subscription…….
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suein56
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Post by suein56 on Feb 19, 2022 10:44:17 GMT 1
We are with EDF Bleu .. option heures creuses.
On HP/HC we pay 12.33 plus vat at 5.5% pm for our monthly abonnement, so 13.008. Currently we pay 0.15175 (incl taxes) plus vat at 20% for our HP, so 0.1821 .. and 0.11335 (incl taxes) plus vat at 20% for HC, so 0.13602.
These rates will rise 4% at our next bill following the price increase at 1st Feb.
A friend is with Total Direct Energie and she does seem to pay slightly less.
We haven't changed supplier as we have had awful problems of supply over the years (now sorted) and wanted to be able to rely on EDF/Enedis coming out the same day we telephoned for help.
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Post by elsie on Feb 19, 2022 10:48:19 GMT 1
It isn't just the cost per kWh which varies (and can be different for different tariffs and, for different departments/regions), so do the standing charges, which can have an impact on overall costs. This is an official comparison web site www.energie-info.fr/comparateurs-et-outils/ which will give you best offers. You need to click on the electricity symbol and put in your postcode on the LHS.
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Aardvark
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Post by Aardvark on Feb 19, 2022 11:47:57 GMT 1
I haven't the brain power to understand an electricity bill. Haven't a clue what I'm paying for with usage, contributions for this, that, and the other, plus various taxes. If they didn't highlight the total to pay in a big blue box I'd be stuck.
I can't even work out how the Linky thing is supposed to save us money. Supposedly it can tell you what each device is using. So what do you do? Sit in the dark? Peer out of the window and watch the rain instead of the crap on TV? Don't use the cooker? Switch off the freezer and let the food rot? Give up the PC and router and lose all contact with the outside world? Beat dirty clothes on a rock somewhere? Cold showers?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 14:30:00 GMT 1
I haven't the brain power to understand an electricity bill. Haven't a clue what I'm paying for with usage, contributions for this, that, and the other, plus various taxes. If they didn't highlight the total to pay in a big blue box I'd be stuck. I can't even work out how the Linky thing is supposed to save us money. Supposedly it can tell you what each device is using. So what do you do? Sit in the dark? Peer out of the window and watch the rain instead of the crap on TV? Don't use the cooker? Switch off the freezer and let the food rot? Give up the PC and router and lose all contact with the outside world? Beat dirty clothes on a rock somewhere? Cold showers? Like you I have no idea but I do know if you look at all the charges and taxes they come to about 45% of the bill.
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Post by houpla on Feb 19, 2022 14:36:30 GMT 1
Linky's to give you something to do instead of watching telly and playing on the computer And to enable you to be properly paranoid about whether you'll be able to afford the next bill. Same principle as water meters. I distinctly remember a few of my clients in UK who switched to only flushing the loo a couple of times a week once they were on metered water. So we've had progress, bringing us all those little luxuries like cars, power at the press of a button, clean hot'n'cold running water, now we're entering the remediaeval zone where we have them taken away again
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Post by pcpa on Feb 19, 2022 20:15:06 GMT 1
There never was a huge amount to be saved with other fournisseurs d’énergie, I was supposedly on the Direct Energie -10% contract but was paying 8% less than EDF Tarif Bleu from the get go, now they have changed the deal, dropped the discount to about what I get but its no longer a percentage less than tarif bleu but a fixed amount, 1 centime or so.
Clearly they know the wholesale price has risen massively and expect the government to allow further increases to the Tarif Bleu so they dont want to be locked in to a percentage saving.
So its about one centime (please check) on about 18cts and will remain at 1centime on a much higher figure to come.
There never was a massive saving to be made but now its a derisory one and will become more so percentage wise as the regulated cost rises, I like the web interface with Direct Energie but will not bother to change from EDF for my new property, like the UK there will be loads of energy companies going bust and I do not want the grief that goes with finding another one that will be just as flaky.
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Post by ibis on Feb 19, 2022 20:41:59 GMT 1
Linky's to give you something to do instead of watching telly and playing on the computer And to enable you to be properly paranoid about whether you'll be able to afford the next bill. Same principle as water meters. I distinctly remember a few of my clients in UK who switched to only flushing the loo a couple of times a week once they were on metered water. So we've had progress, bringing us all those little luxuries like cars, power at the press of a button, clean hot'n'cold running water, now we're entering the remediaeval zone where we have them taken away again It seems like the only that are having them "taken" away are the ones who did not save properly for old age, are true to their faith and reproduce like rabbits or have not acquired the skills (that are available to all) to live in this world.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2022 22:13:42 GMT 1
Linky's to give you something to do instead of watching telly and playing on the computer And to enable you to be properly paranoid about whether you'll be able to afford the next bill. Same principle as water meters. I distinctly remember a few of my clients in UK who switched to only flushing the loo a couple of times a week once they were on metered water. So we've had progress, bringing us all those little luxuries like cars, power at the press of a button, clean hot'n'cold running water, now we're entering the remediaeval zone where we have them taken away again It seems like the only that are having them "taken" away are the ones who did not save properly for old age, are true to their faith and reproduce like rabbits or have not acquired the skills (that are available to all) to live in this world. I know a couple who were a few years away from retirement then lost there pension when the pension company went bust some things are out of peoples control. Things go wrong in life that some have no control over.
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Post by pcpa on Feb 19, 2022 23:05:14 GMT 1
I was a couple of years from retirement with a flourishing business worth a lot of money which would have sold in a heartbeat, even after significant drops following the attentats, Brexit and the falling pound it was still very viable.
Then along came Covid which nobody could have foreseen and the very things that made my trade so resilient to other events meant that now whilst others are rebounding mine remains at zero and wont restart for 12, 18 months even several years, who knows? the only certainty is that it will restart from zero and build up very slowly.
Thankfully I was not reliant on the income and having saved pretty much everything since the start I can walk away (or at least forget it for several years) and get on with something else, many others will not be so fortunate, they may have bought a going concern using a mortgage which would have been more than covered by the returns and given them a good income, people like that will be really screwed, no income, no more government support and a mortgage to pay, unable to return to the UK because the house prices have shot up during that time.
Even without events like the above many peoples well thought out plans become wrecked through divorce, ill health, one partner desperate to return to their children & grandchildren etc.
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Post by houpla on Feb 20, 2022 10:51:06 GMT 1
The responses above say it all really, but you can't reason with smug arrogance
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Aardvark
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Post by Aardvark on Feb 20, 2022 11:54:06 GMT 1
Oh so true.
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Post by ibis on Feb 20, 2022 12:35:26 GMT 1
It seems like the only that are having them "taken" away are the ones who did not save properly for old age, are true to their faith and reproduce like rabbits or have not acquired the skills (that are available to all) to live in this world. I know a couple who were a few years away from retirement then lost there pension when the pension company went bust some things are out of peoples control. Things go wrong in life that some have no control over. I do not know about the island but in the US of A that pension company would have been under FDIC which would have covered the first $100000 of their individual pension.
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Post by ibis on Feb 20, 2022 12:39:14 GMT 1
edit to the above - it is $250000 so I think their pensions would have been covered in full by the fdic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2022 12:56:35 GMT 1
I know a couple who were a few years away from retirement then lost there pension when the pension company went bust some things are out of peoples control. Things go wrong in life that some have no control over. I do not know about the island but in the US of A that pension company would have been under FDIC which would have covered the first $100000 of their individual pension. It can and does happen. Campaigners are ramping up their fight for justice for almost one million customers who lost their life savings in the Equitable Life scandal. Almost 900,000 people who held a pension with the insurance firm still remain out of pocket two decades after a black hole was revealed in its finances in 2000.
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