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Post by pcpa on Mar 16, 2022 11:27:46 GMT 1
No need for sarcastic nastiness. It wasn't aimed at you Exile. Sneering superiority is not something I would ever associate with your always valued contributions.
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Post by pcpa on Mar 16, 2022 11:41:03 GMT 1
That is herd immunity in all but name I was speaking of one couple who chose not to be vaccinated, when they contract it their immune systems will create antibodies as mine did after the vaccinations.
Herd immunity was spoken of 2 years ago when there was no vaccine, now with over 90% vaccinated it seems a strange term to be being used, whilst double checking the percentages vaccinated I read this:
Vaccines, and the race for herd immunity The share of a vaccinated population needed to stop the spread of the virus lies at 60 percent, according to scientists. France, like other countries around the world, has announced a vaccination strategy in several stages, giving priority to those at risk and to caregivers.
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Post by pcpa on Mar 16, 2022 11:49:10 GMT 1
It's a FACT that the only course of action that works is to be double jabbed with booster(s), wearing a mask, washing your hands and social distancing. This is how the spread will be stopped and the NHS saved. Whilst I agree with your statement the second sentence is 2 years out of date.
Do you really believe that the current actions of France, the UK, New Zealand or any other country with a successfull vaccination programme are aimed at stopping the spread of Covid?
They are quite the opposite the spread is being facilitated, more than 50% of the UK population have already contracted it.
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Post by specsavers2 on Mar 16, 2022 14:14:17 GMT 1
Seventy percent of shoppers and half the staff were not wearing masks went shopping in town today. We will still be wearing masks for a while yet in areas we consider it would be safer for us. This is purely our thinking
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Post by curtis on Mar 16, 2022 15:02:09 GMT 1
Just to confirm my thinking. Wearing a masque is to protect others unless it is a PP2 and then that gives you some protection. Am I right?
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Post by jackie on Mar 16, 2022 15:09:08 GMT 1
In Le Clerc this morning most people (including me) were still wearing masks.
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Post by pcpa on Mar 16, 2022 15:54:17 GMT 1
There are some still wearing masks in most shops around here but are in the minority, only one or two staff in shops are still wearing theirs, I can't say I blame them, I have avoided all but essential visits to shops until now, they have had to wear their masks every working hour for the last 2 years.
It's good that everyone can make their choice without being criticised or frowned at.
Is the passe sanitaire still required for bars & restos? AKA do the non vaccinated have the same freedoms as the vaccinated?
Also what about schools, colleges etc, are pupils & enseignantes required to wear masks?
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Post by ForumUser2 on Mar 16, 2022 17:09:28 GMT 1
Just to confirm my thinking. Wearing a masque is to protect others unless it is a PP2 and then that gives you some protection. Am I right? That's essentially correct.
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Post by ForumUser2 on Mar 16, 2022 17:13:29 GMT 1
It's good that everyone can make their choice without being criticised or frowned at. I disagree. It is remarkably selfish of the non-wearers. They clearly care little for their own health but, more importantly, if someone harbours the virus then wearing a mask will reduce the amount of droplet spread from that person. Non-wearers are placing all around them at higher risk. That deserves disapproval in my book.
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Post by ibis on Mar 16, 2022 17:22:57 GMT 1
It's good that everyone can make their choice without being criticised or frowned at. I disagree. It is remarkably selfish of the non-wearers. They clearly care little for their own health but, more importantly, if someone harbours the virus then wearing a mask will reduce the amount of droplet spread from that person. Non-wearers are placing all around them at higher risk. That deserves disapproval in my book. You have your opinion and the government has theirs which is backed by not a mere nurse but scientists and data.
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Post by Aardvark on Mar 16, 2022 17:43:29 GMT 1
Don't try to tell us that the UK government were actually listening to the scientists. There have been enough examples of disagreement between the two factions in the news. When the government decided to win votes or "protect the economy" by lifting restrictions at the wrong time some medical professionals disagreed. Lifting restrictions just before Xmas so that families could travel far and wide to spread their infections was a vote winner that cost lives.
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Post by Aardvark on Mar 16, 2022 17:47:02 GMT 1
What is even sadder is that they cannot even vote and as an government is normally representative of the population they are just flogging off their ex country mates... That is odd. I have the vote in UK and live here.
Can you explain what "flogging off their ex country mates" means please, I don't understand flogging off as in selling off or beating off, or has flogging off aquired a new meaning? See what you can find out about the "15 year rule". It stopped anyone living abroad being able to vote back in the UK.
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Post by pcpa on Mar 16, 2022 17:47:09 GMT 1
It's good that everyone can make their choice without being criticised or frowned at. I disagree. It is remarkably selfish of the non-wearers. They clearly care little for their own health but, more importantly, if someone harbours the virus then wearing a mask will reduce the amount of droplet spread from that person. Non-wearers are placing all around them at higher risk. That deserves disapproval in my book. I was speaking about society in general in public areas, there will always be those who take their pleasure from behind the safety of a keyboard, thankfully they usually are better behaved in public.
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Post by ForumUser2 on Mar 16, 2022 17:59:04 GMT 1
I disagree. It is remarkably selfish of the non-wearers. They clearly care little for their own health but, more importantly, if someone harbours the virus then wearing a mask will reduce the amount of droplet spread from that person. Non-wearers are placing all around them at higher risk. That deserves disapproval in my book. You have your opinion and the government has theirs which is backed by not a mere nurse but scientists and data. For a start nurses are not "mere". And if that's aimed at me I'm a retired Consultant Surgeon so have some small insight into disease control.
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Post by triumphant on Mar 16, 2022 19:11:43 GMT 1
It's good that everyone can make their choice without being criticised or frowned at. I disagree. It is remarkably selfish of the non-wearers. They clearly care little for their own health but, more importantly, if someone harbours the virus then wearing a mask will reduce the amount of droplet spread from that person. Non-wearers are placing all around them at higher risk. That deserves disapproval in my book. As a non-wearer I do care about my health. So much so I have decided not to have the vaccination until more data is available. If people are in fear of breathing unfiltered air then surely being vaccinated and probably boosted and also wearing a mask gives them all the protection they could wish for?
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