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Post by lurcher on Apr 24, 2022 19:05:22 GMT 1
After twenty years in our secondaire we have decided to look at the possibility of replacing the traditional hard wood windows with modern PVC or aluminium double glazed units. The house is an old, stone single story building and is of course very cold. We still have a few years before we try to sell and settle back in UK but we are trying to make it more saleable while giving us a bit more comfort. It would also mean that I can avoid painting the present windows inside and out. I know that the non-standard sizes prevent me from picking up fairly cheap units from the main DIY outlets so we have already received a devis from the local, aluminium company who only offer aluminium double glazing, custom made. The price for six double windows and one very secure external Porte-Fenetre was about 11000€. We are currently waiting for the local, one man workshop to provide a devis for PVC and aluminium. He supplied and fitted our oak shutters 15 years ago. It would be good to hear from anyone on the forum who has first hand experience of replacing old windows with double glazing in terms of what type of company was used and if possible typical prices for supply and fitting. Thank you
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Post by amandaj on Apr 24, 2022 20:22:48 GMT 1
I don't know how non standard your windows are but a friend of ours with a similar problem managed to buy standard windows from LaPeyre + extra bits (I think they're called knock ons in UK, can't remember the French word)
Massively cheaper than made to measure. He fitted them himself though.
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Post by Aardvark on Apr 24, 2022 20:23:04 GMT 1
I got three made to measure hardwood D/G windows for my place from LaPeyre. I don't recall what they cost but it wan't a fraction of what you paid. Of course I fitted them myself to that must have saved a bit. Keep looking. I would avoid aluminium because of cost and condensation.
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Post by exile on Apr 24, 2022 20:28:42 GMT 1
Our menuiserie supplied double glazed hardwood windows at a price then that was surprisingly cheap. It was however sufficiently long ago that a price comparison would perhaps not be useful. We stained, rather than varnished or painted the windows and I will this summer have to look at re-staining. Just the second time in 18 years. I did make the mistake of not reading the tin correctly and bought varnish for the shutters. It lasted barely 3 years -guaranteed (ha, bl00dy ha) 8 years but at 3000ft altitude we get twice the uv radiation than lowlanders do. Uv is the death of paint and varnish coverings.
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Post by amandaj on Apr 24, 2022 20:51:55 GMT 1
Sorry, I forgot to say windows were upvc
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 21:04:50 GMT 1
If you are anywhere near Leroy Merlin it would be worth asking for a estimate. They do made to measure and I'm sure they would be cheaper than 11k. Bricoman have a large range of PVC you can look online for prices and sizes.
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Post by pcpa on Apr 24, 2022 21:29:24 GMT 1
standard windows from LaPeyre + extra bits (I think they're called knock ons in UK, can't remember the French word) Élargisseur.
If you need to increase the depth of the profile then you use tapis d'isolation.
Widths are often standard, heights can be made up by incorporating volet roulants or fitting a seperate horizontal vantail above, they can all be just screwed together.
I have windows where I have fitted a pair of double openers side to side and spanned by a pair of volets, they were fitted where a partition wall was placed in the middle of an existing opening, now each room has its own window and volet.
Where I had huge café windows I built a central brick pillar and arches spanning both sides to reduce the height thus creating 2 single windows that were still much higher than any of the standard ones, each of them are topped by a single horizontal opening vantail (€40) and the coffret of the volet roulant, only a bit of that shows under the shallow brick arch.
I even have a double window (one of the above under the brick arch) where the subsequent layout needed a partition wall between the bathroom and bedroom to fall in the middle of one of the openers, from the outside it looks like a double window with frosted glass (vinyl) but inside there is only one opener in the bathroom, the other one is hidden behind the placo, the bedroom has its own double window, the one the other side of the pillar.
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Post by exile on Apr 24, 2022 21:43:28 GMT 1
One further thought given that your intention would seem to be to improve the property with an eventual view on sale:
What about triple glazing? With fuel prices currently going just one way, the added benefit might be worthwhile. Some 10 years or so ago, I remember see an advert on the side of a bus for triple glazing at 1€ more than double. No idea however how expensive the double was.
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Post by lurcher on Apr 24, 2022 22:02:38 GMT 1
Lots of good advice here already. That is a very welcome response and I will certainly be noting all these ideas. Mysty2, we will check with the Leroy Merlin just outside Gueret to investigate their made to measure service. It is quite different in France compared with the wide choice of suppliers in the UK, big and small. Thank you everyone.
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Post by spectrum on Apr 25, 2022 7:28:32 GMT 1
I fitted all Lapeyre windows in original house, all DG and with shutters, good quality, any size you want, we have used them for other items and never had any problem with them.
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Post by Polarengineer on Apr 25, 2022 7:32:15 GMT 1
There is no Leroy Merlin near Gueret. The nearest is in the family village Limoges. I too found Lapeyre wndows suitable and reasonably priced. My house is stone from 1880 and they had windows that fit, even though most of the 37 windows were 2m tall. They even have sections to extend the height, mind you these are all wooden frames.
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Post by annabellespapa on Apr 25, 2022 8:27:27 GMT 1
We fitted 8 windows of various sizes (including one double patio door) only 5 years ago from Leroy Merlin, all standard sizes but used wood packers and trims to finish, we chose their bois exotique but upvc were available at a similar price, total cost was €1350, they were delivered on a pallet outside our kitchen door, I know prices have gone up but as suggested look on their website and see if you can fit windows with a bit of packing inside your openings. I have twice reduced patio doors to fit but I wouldn't recommend it. As also has been said try their made to measure as a price comparison. Once in you would not know they were "off the shelf" windows. Good luck.
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Post by amandaj on Apr 25, 2022 8:36:35 GMT 1
standard windows from LaPeyre + extra bits (I think they're called knock ons in UK, can't remember the French word) Élargisseur.
Thanks, I couldn't remember it while I was typing and was too lazy to look it up
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Post by Le-Dolly on Apr 25, 2022 9:16:51 GMT 1
Thanks, I couldn't remember it while I was typing and was too lazy to look it up The actual term used by Lapeyre is "Alèse d'élargissement". They are available for fitting to one, or both, sides and the top and can be doubled-up if necessary.
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Post by lurcher on Apr 25, 2022 11:34:56 GMT 1
There is no Leroy Merlin near Gueret. The nearest is in the family village Limoges. I too found Lapeyre wndows suitable and reasonably priced. My house is stone from 1880 and they had windows that fit, even though most of the 37 windows were 2m tall. They even have sections to extend the height, mind you these are all wooden frames. I don’t know why I thought there was an LM at Gueret as we often travel there for the cinema. We even buy quite a lot of materials from the one in Chateauroux. Following your description it may be possible to persuade my wife to consider me doing the fitting which I am sure I could do reasonably well. She is in fact more worried about putting me under pressure. Maybe I could find a willing, local fitter to do the work. A trip to LM and BricoDepot and Lepeyre is now certain. Those Lepeyre prices seem consistent with my earlier research and are very tempting. I had costed the whole job at under 2000€ with just me fitting it all. Thanks again for all your very helpful suggestions.
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