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Post by hal on May 24, 2022 11:16:36 GMT 1
A professional question maybe, but interested if anyone has experience of this
I have a large hobby workshop. It is simply wired with a 5A lighting ring main and a 16A power ring main. Off the ring main, I have many sockets (more than 8) and power sources such as drill and two post car lift etc. All this on the basis that I only use the place and therefore will never have more than one device active at any one time, so no danger as such.
If I were to sell and leave the workshop as is, would I be breaking any law that I could be criminally liable? If I had the buyer sign a waiver understanding the breach of regulation, would this suffice? Or is it best just to rip it down when the time comes?
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Le-Dolly
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Post by Le-Dolly on May 24, 2022 12:37:36 GMT 1
A professional question maybe, but interested if anyone has experience of this I have a large hobby workshop. It is simply wired with a 5A lighting ring main and a 16A power ring main. Off the ring main, I have many sockets (more than 8) and power sources such as drill and two post car lift etc. All this on the basis that I only use the place and therefore will never have more than one device active at any one time, so no danger as such. If I were to sell and leave the workshop as is, would I be breaking any law that I could be criminally liable? If I had the buyer sign a waiver understanding the breach of regulation, would this suffice? Or is it best just to rip it down when the time comes? I would just disconnect the start of the run and leave it to the new "buyer" to make their own decision.
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Post by ibis on May 24, 2022 12:40:41 GMT 1
Inform the new "buyer" of the disconnection and why it is.
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Post by chrisell on May 24, 2022 13:24:49 GMT 1
It's kind of why there are diagnostics - theres no such thing as illegal in these circumstances - none compliant isn't illegal. Hide it (god knows how but .....) And there's possible come back under vice cache - but we return to the diagnostique. Buyer would know from the diagnostic - remove the circuit there's nothing to "fail". Lighting on a 5a breaker is fine anyway - although on a ring .. are you sure it's a ring for the lights - that's unusual
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Post by hal on May 24, 2022 13:33:20 GMT 1
'non-compliant is not illegal' is the part that interests me. Good!
Rather than rip it out, I will follow Le Dolly's suggestion of disconnecting it and ibis, to tell them why. Then it is, as you suggest, up to a new owner.
Thanks!
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Post by pcpa on May 24, 2022 23:04:52 GMT 1
I would be amazed if any diagnostiqueur were to detect that it had been wired as a ring main, most french electricians would be scratching their heads looking for the second circuit and it would blow their mind to find that the two wires are one circuit.
If the cables are adequate then you could also disconnect and isolate the return part of the ring circuit from the disjoncteur. Perhaps that is what LeDolly meant, start of run or return, disconnecting either makes it into a conforming circuit subject to cable size and number off sockets etc.
If you consider selling the car lift and any other large workshop equipment then I would be interested, they are on my list & will otherwise be picked up as and when they become available for when the workshop is extended.
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Post by exile on May 24, 2022 23:42:23 GMT 1
I would be amazed if any diagnostiqueur were to detect that it had been wired as a ring main, most french electricians would be scratching their heads looking for the second circuit and it would blow their mind to find that the two wires are one circuit. If the cables are adequate then you could also disconnect and isolate the return part of the ring circuit from the disjoncteur. Perhaps that is what LeDolly meant, start of run or return, disconnecting either makes it into a conforming circuit subject to cable size and number off sockets etc.If you consider selling the car lift and any other large workshop equipment then I would be interested, they are on my list & will otherwise be picked up as and when they become available for when the workshop is extended. I did not think you could daisy chain which is effectively what a severed ring main is. That is the reason I did not suggest disconnecting at the eighth socket and installing a second disjoncteur.
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Post by hal on May 25, 2022 10:22:50 GMT 1
Actually, looking again, it is not a ring main - I forgot to join the two runs together!! So it is in effect two daisy chains that I just keep adding to But it is ok, I know what to do when sale time comes No pcpa, nothing is or will be for sale!
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Post by hal on May 25, 2022 10:27:22 GMT 1
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