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Post by lindalovely on Jun 18, 2022 10:03:28 GMT 1
Just a word of warning, although I am sure you are all aware. A big jump in Covid cases amongst my 'circle'..me being one of them. And yes some of us were at a big fund raising event, but others have caught it just going about their day to day events.
Normal summer events have resumed and I guess people have let their guard down. I had to look up the current rules.
So if you test positive you must isolate for 7 days if you are fully vaccinated or 10 days if you are not vaccinated. If you have been symptom free for 2 days then have a negative antigen test you can reduce the isolation period to 5 days. Contacts do not need to isolate unless they develop symptoms or test positive. This all appears to be pretty voluntary as the only case numbers that are recorded are those that are registered by a PCR test and almost everyone I know are just using autotests..me included. I guess many people are not testing at all if the symptoms are mild.
This is my second go at Covid.. I'm guessing it is Omicron of some type as it is much more like a heavy cold..no raging headaches or bone aches, but dripping nose, upset stomach, sore throat and dry cough.. All now receding but still testing positive.
Now I am assuming I can still go and vote tomorrow, although will make sure I wear a mask.
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Post by exile on Jun 18, 2022 10:44:17 GMT 1
Speedy recovery LL.
I have to say I am not surprised and it seems to be the same in the UK with cases on the up. Despite the experts all saying that this virus does not like the warm summer conditions, this is now the third summer in a row where the case rate has started to go up. I think this is in part due to greater social mixing as you suggest but also I think C19 is much less impacted by summer conditions than we have been led to believe.
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Post by Nifty on Jun 18, 2022 10:47:59 GMT 1
@ LL. Same here. It is getting closer to home.
Though, I am sure I have not got CV. I know of quite a few people who have it, or have had it locally.
it is dangerous. But not as dangerous as those who ignore advice.
says he with his oh planning to visit uk in the Fall………..
Location, location, location,
state of health and how caring / intelligent / educated/ privileged one’s peer group are.
life is a gamble. How one play's it is largely up to them.
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Post by Veem on Jun 18, 2022 10:48:55 GMT 1
In this current heatwave, wearing a mask is more uncomfortable than usual, but most people seem to have entirely dropped the custom. I was shopping in an extremely busy supermarket this morning and there was only a handful of people wearing them - including me.
Hope you get better soon Linda.
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Post by crabtree on Jun 18, 2022 11:51:49 GMT 1
OH and I had our 4th jab yesterday at our local pharmacy, RDV booked 10 days ago.
Other than arm and head ache, I am ok. However OH has her usual reaction, it is like she is being struck down with a bad bout of flu for 24 hours. I would not mind but there is so much do be done to get our gite ready, and she has taken to her bed!
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Post by Le-Dolly on Jun 18, 2022 12:44:09 GMT 1
I also had my 4th jab yesterday, the nurse came to the house, very civilised. Same reactions as the other 3, none. I wonder if I am lucky, or are they just jabbing me with water?
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Post by Aardvark on Jun 18, 2022 15:01:13 GMT 1
Such a wide variety of reactions to the jab, as well as people still getting Covid afterwards, some more than once. Makes me wonder if it really is much good. Normally these jabs are tested for much longer and spend a lot more time before they even get to the test stage. Must have been a bonanza for Big Pharma when governments were throwing big money at massive advance orders. BJ the Hun is still bragging about being one of the first to order (after signing off any possibility of litigation in case of unexpected side effects).
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Post by crabtree on Jun 18, 2022 15:42:49 GMT 1
The jabs will not stop you from catching Covid, they are to (hopefully) prevent any serious illness if you do catch it.
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Post by exile on Jun 18, 2022 16:00:52 GMT 1
Aardvark, if the vaccines did not provide a good degree of protection we would not be seeing relatively low death rates. It seems we are back to the rushed release of the vaccines and I therefore have to repeat what I have previously posted. It generally takes 10 years to develop a vaccine. 1. Vaccine research was already 4 years down the research track when Covid arrived because many companies were working on a SARS vaccine, thinking this would be the next great epidemic. There is a great deal of similarity between SARS and Covid 19. 2. Government funding at a high level, meant that ongoing research and testing could be carried out 24/7/52 rather than a standard 35 hours per week 44 weeks per year. This sped up the development time by a factor of 5.6. So instead of the remaining 6 years of research taking 6 years it would have been a little over 1 year. 3. The vaccine companies decided to run phase 2 and phase 3 trials nearly in parallel. The normal course of events is to do phase 2 trials. Evaluate the results, decide whether to proceed (cost benefit analysis) and then proceed to phase 3. This saved at least 6 months time and more likely 12 months. 4. Vaccine companies also decided to take the risk of starting vaccine production during the trial phase. This would normally be after the evaluation of phase 3 trials. In these last two risk taking steps, some companies came a cropper. Their vaccines never came to market and they will have expended millions if not billions in getting nowhere. Examples of failed projects are SANOFI and Pasteur Institute. That we have had very very few major side effects (I don't count sore arms or feeling under the weather for a couple of days) is testament to the robustness of the processes and testing. While there have been a few cases of major side effects and a few deaths, we have to remember that no medication is 100% safe. AS for the need for repeat vaccination - nothing new there. Polio - in my day I think 3 lots. Yellow Fever - every 10 years. Ditto Tetanus. Flu - annual.
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Post by gigi on Jun 18, 2022 17:13:04 GMT 1
Lindalovely - someone who’s 80 today could write a great song with that beginning!
Sorry to read that you have Covid again, glad it’s mild.
Great that so many have had vaccinations against it and especially good that so many of the older and more vulnerable have had their second booster.
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Post by pcpa on Jun 18, 2022 21:12:58 GMT 1
AS for the need for repeat vaccination - nothing new there. Polio - in my day I think 3 lots. Yellow Fever - every 10 years. Ditto Tetanus. Flu - annual. I'm pretty sure when I had my first vaccination (I abhor the misused word jab!) it was to be followed by the second (booster?) one and that was to be the end of it. Then a 3rd one came along and now a 4th, the drug companies are making hay while the sun shines, I didn't have the 3rd and would only have done so if it was required for travel, that it wasn't says a lot to me, so lacking the 3rd I definitely wont be having the 4th. If I catch it then it counts for a vaccination anyway, I am only 50m away from the isolating party girl but the wind is blowing in the wrong direction for me to cop for it. Joking aside I completely understand the vulnerable or frightened accepting every vaccination going, I just wonde where it will all end, I suspect all the time there is money to be made then the merry go round will continue.
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Post by cernunnos on Jun 18, 2022 21:19:47 GMT 1
I agree, We are "upto date" because we need to be, not vulnerable , or not that we know, not scared either!
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Post by exile on Jun 18, 2022 21:42:49 GMT 1
Joking aside I completely understand the vulnerable or frightened accepting every vaccination going, I just wonde where it will all end, I suspect all the time there is money to be made then the merry go round will continue. Moderna are now saying they have a vaccine that will provide 12 months cover. Don't just see it as a money-go-round although I would be the first to admit that the successful vaccine firms will be recouping their massive costs - and probably then some. The people we should think about are those living in countries where the finances, geography and logistics mean that many have not had a first round.
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Post by lindalovely on Jun 19, 2022 10:22:15 GMT 1
I got an invite for an additional booster about 4 weeks ago and it was on my list of things to do. I really wish I had gone, because despite all the breakkthrough infections reported, no one in my immediate circle that was either more recently boosted or had Covid more recently got it this time round so whilst not 100% preventative I think an up to date vaccine makes the whole thing much less likely. OH hasn't seemed to succumb and neither did my NZ visitors, despite sitting next to me in the car when I was most likely contagious.
Symptoms are resolving.. no fever or aches..just a bit of an annoying cough.
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Post by lapourtaider on Jun 19, 2022 10:39:33 GMT 1
It certainly hasn't gone away. We completed on our house sale on monday 30th May, spending all morning with our buyers. On Wednesday we left for a trip to the UK. On the drive up through France we were informed that one of our buyers had just tested +ve. On arrival at our relatives Thursday evening we tested-ve, but Saturday morning I tested +ve and had to go into isolation to protect the two elderly Aunts who live with my wife's cousin. The cousin tested +ve two days later so my wife and her cousin's husband had to do the caring. The cousin finally tested-ve 9 days later and me 14 days later. Our first 10 days of the visit were a write off.
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