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Post by pcpa on Jun 19, 2022 11:52:47 GMT 1
Several years I have recieved a letter at the very last hour saying that my droites would end (virtually) the next day and that the carte vitale would be disactivated, you have to reapply each year which I had already done.
I was not overly concerned as my Carte Vitale worked at the chemists and I had nothing to pay as usual, OK so they might have asked me for the 30% or whatever later on but not worth getting stressed about unless it happened, a couple of months later they informed me that my CSS coverage had been renewed & the effective date was when the old one expired.
Had I gone in to complain instead of sitting tight thinking its just the way they work, were I perhaps not a good French speaker, stressed, making them try to speak English (fat chance in my region) then dependant on who was on the recieving end of my manifestation they probably would relish telling me that "migrants anglais' no longer have the right to claim since Brexit", I have heard far worse but these things are rarely true.
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Post by houpla on Jun 19, 2022 12:24:27 GMT 1
Oh I quite agree, pcpa, that if I were in their position and had to deal day in-day out with hopeless, helpless foreigners then I too would probably feel less than helpful. But I've spent 15 years being resolutely polite and cheerful (in French) to the absolute bitches in the Agen office. Their track record of incompetence and rudeness is one of the worst in France, possibly because it's a high-density cachement area for Brits. Having said that, though, so is the Dordogne, and I've not heard particularly bad things about Perigueux! What is strange about this whole scenario is that no-one (from the British Ambassador down) has heard of or publicised a change in the law, either French or British. There are enough media sources on the go to keep Brits informed of any changes, albeit with varying degrees of accuracy, but there has been nothing from UK sources to warn of this change, and nothing from the French side until the refusal is received. You may not rate RIFT, but personally, I'd be reassured to know that there is an entity that will be looking into this and providing support to Brits who can't, for one reason or another, fight their own corner.
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Post by pcpa on Jun 19, 2022 13:03:22 GMT 1
The rudeness in Picardie cannot be challenged, it's on an altogether different level, they are very proud of and work hard at it, being a Brit is just another label for which to attach their insults, as the préfecture only processed +/- 80 Brexit CdS applications they won't have been subjected to what those around where I am now living will have suffered.
They are to paraphrase Judge Judy "Ecumenical Abusers"!
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Post by pcpa on Jun 19, 2022 13:09:49 GMT 1
I do wonder whether a few people have recieved letters like I did and were so alarmed that they went to Agen and set off on completely the wrong foot and were wound up by perhaps just one person who had by then had enough.
And then the power of social media has blown it up out of all proportion, there are some that can only assuage their own anxiety by creating it in as many others as possible, we saw so much of that after the Brexit vote.
I am unfair towards RIFT, they are a valuable resource and do good work, its just at the beginning it was obviously being driven by someone (for all the right reasons) who to me it was plain to see was an extreme case of the above.
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Post by pcpa on Jun 19, 2022 13:42:19 GMT 1
You should get a response from at least one of the people or organisations you have written to, it will be interesting to see what whether there is any truth behind and what provoked it.
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Post by houpla on Jun 19, 2022 18:09:54 GMT 1
Would you like to place a bet on that? 🤣
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Post by pcpa on Jun 19, 2022 21:00:14 GMT 1
Why not, I have nothing to lose having lost my wallet containing my cash and all my cards midway on the journey down, I am currectly being financed by friends to carry on living in the style to which I have become accustomed. French banks being what they are its pas possible for my new debit card to be sent to my new addresse or for me to colelct it from a local branch here. I am so touched by my friends generosity that I am going to take them out for a meal but it will be them paying I think I will invite some others from the group, I am very generous with other peoples money! Joking aside you do not want to find yourself without any means of payment half way through an 800km drive at a barriére de péage and needing to fill your tank to complete the journey, nor do you want to pass 3 weeks at your destination trying to make a tiny part of a hovel habitable without being able to buy food, materials or fuel for the return journey.
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Post by houpla on Jun 20, 2022 9:12:45 GMT 1
Tricky one! We got stranded in UK a few years back, at which point I discovered that you can get by really well in life with just a credit card and smartphone But the credit card bit was critical.... If you fancy setting up a roadside stall to tide you over, I can provide several hundred kgs of cucumbers and peaches Seriously, do hope you get it sorted quickly!
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Post by pcpa on Jun 20, 2022 15:04:37 GMT 1
It will be a long haul back to normality, I won't return to my banque addresse till les grandes vacances scholaires, I think the 8th of July, I will be driving all day so the banque probably wont be open until Tuesday at which point they will deny all knowledge of the card before eventually finding it in a cardboard box that anyone walking in could access.
For the UK cards it wont be till completion on the house sale there which could be months.
I have some cheques left, nowhere near enough and my passport, I bet the C.A. branch here wont allow me to cash a cheque.
I never realised how attached I was to card payments for everything, I stopped carring coins a decade ago, I dont know how much was in the wallet but unlikely to have been over €50 probably less.
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Post by pcpa on Jun 20, 2022 15:05:38 GMT 1
If I were French I would launch une cagnotte!
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Post by elsie on Jun 21, 2022 9:37:46 GMT 1
The numéro de sécurité sociale is made up as follows caractère 1 : le sexe (1 pour un homme et 2 pour une femme) ; caractères 2 et 3 : les deux derniers chiffres de l’année de naissance ; caractères 4 et 5 : le mois de naissance ; caractères 6 et 7 : le code du département ; caractères 8, 9 et 10 : le « code commune » officiel de l’Insee* ; caractères 11 à 13 : un numéro d’ordre qui permet de distinguer les personnes nées au même lieu et à la même période. Une clé de contrôle à 2 chiffres complète le numéro de sécurité sociale à 13 chiffres
I don't know why, but my characters 6-10, issued in 2002 are 99 190 which does not exist (as far as I've been able to determine) in the current or old INSEE lists.
And 11-13 is 058 - so another 57 people born in the same country and month/year?
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Post by lapourtaider on Jun 21, 2022 9:55:58 GMT 1
The numéro de sécurité sociale is made up as follows caractère 1 : le sexe (1 pour un homme et 2 pour une femme) ; caractères 2 et 3 : les deux derniers chiffres de l’année de naissance ; caractères 4 et 5 : le mois de naissance ; caractères 6 et 7 : le code du département ; caractères 8, 9 et 10 : le « code commune » officiel de l’Insee* ; caractères 11 à 13 : un numéro d’ordre qui permet de distinguer les personnes nées au même lieu et à la même période. Une clé de contrôle à 2 chiffres complète le numéro de sécurité sociale à 13 chiffres I don't know why, but my characters 6-10, issued in 2002 are 99 190 which does not exist (as far as I've been able to determine) in the current or old INSEE lists. And 11-13 is 058 - so another 57 people born in the same country and month/year? 6 & 7 are the department of birth. For étrangères it is always 99.
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Post by elsie on Jun 21, 2022 10:03:28 GMT 1
The numéro de sécurité sociale is made up as follows caractère 1 : le sexe (1 pour un homme et 2 pour une femme) ; caractères 2 et 3 : les deux derniers chiffres de l’année de naissance ; caractères 4 et 5 : le mois de naissance ; caractères 6 et 7 : le code du département ; caractères 8, 9 et 10 : le « code commune » officiel de l’Insee* ; caractères 11 à 13 : un numéro d’ordre qui permet de distinguer les personnes nées au même lieu et à la même période. Une clé de contrôle à 2 chiffres complète le numéro de sécurité sociale à 13 chiffres I don't know why, but my characters 6-10, issued in 2002 are 99 190 which does not exist (as far as I've been able to determine) in the current or old INSEE lists. And 11-13 is 058 - so another 57 people born in the same country and month/year? 6 & 7 are the department of birth. For étrangères it is always 99. Yes, but which country is 190? As pcpa pointed out earlier 99 132 = Royaume Uni. The country code 190 does not exist on the INSEE lists.
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Post by houpla on Jun 21, 2022 10:36:51 GMT 1
Probably just a change in format/procedure? I've just got back from a pointless trip to the local 'France Services' office. Only open 9-12 on Tuesdays. She didn't turn up this morning. And this is the person that supposedly helps us lesser mortals to deal with French bureaucracy. Yeah, right. This country really is getting beyond a joke.
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Post by suein56 on Jun 21, 2022 12:05:08 GMT 1
I've just got back from a pointless trip to the local 'France Services' office. Only open 9-12 on Tuesdays. She didn't turn up this morning. And this is the person that supposedly helps us lesser mortals to deal with French bureaucracy. Yeah, right. This country really is getting beyond a joke. Ah yes .. the famous 'fermeture exceptionnelle' .. handily marked by a notice on the entrance door and not marked/noted anywhere else. Sooo frustrating
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