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Post by Loiseau on Jul 7, 2022 18:53:44 GMT 1
I have just been staying with a friend in Brittany who has recently acquired a new house.
It has radiators that run off an oil-fired boiler in the adjacent shed, obviously fed by a nearly-full tank of oil.
She says that one is no longer allowed to use an oil-fired boiler in France. Is this right?
I can understand maybe not being allowed to INSTALL a new one but surely, if you already have one, you would still be able to use it until it needed replacing.
She also says that it is no longer possible to have an oil-fired boiler serviced. I imagine that would be a problem, as I am sure it should be serviced before first re-use.
Can anyone point me at the rules on this?
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Post by JohnnyD on Jul 7, 2022 19:21:55 GMT 1
I would find that a bit worrying if true, we have an oil fired boiler as i am sure many other people have in France, where did she get this information from?
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Post by suein56 on Jul 7, 2022 19:31:44 GMT 1
Your friend is getting confused .. from .. www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A15413#:~:text=Pour%20r%C3%A9duire%20l'%C3%A9mission%20de,'autres%20sources%20d'%C3%A9nergie. La fin des nouvelles chaudières au fioul ou au charbon à partir du 1er juillet 2022 Pour réduire l'émission de gaz à effet de serre, l'installation d'équipements de chauffage ou de production d'eau chaude fonctionnant au fioul sera interdite à partir du 1er juillet 2022, sauf en cas d'impossibilité d'usage d'autres sources d'énergie. Les appareils déjà installés pourront continuer d'être utilisés, entretenus et réparés, mais des aides financières allant jusqu'à 11 000 € sont prévues pour encourager leur remplacement. Un décret paru au Journal officiel le 6 janvier 2022 fixe ces nouvelles dispositions. |
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Post by ibis on Jul 7, 2022 19:41:21 GMT 1
Your friend is getting confused .. from .. www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A15413#:~:text=Pour%20r%C3%A9duire%20l'%C3%A9mission%20de,'autres%20sources%20d'%C3%A9nergie. La fin des nouvelles chaudières au fioul ou au charbon à partir du 1er juillet 2022 Pour réduire l'émission de gaz à effet de serre, l'installation d'équipements de chauffage ou de production d'eau chaude fonctionnant au fioul sera interdite à partir du 1er juillet 2022, sauf en cas d'impossibilité d'usage d'autres sources d'énergie. Les appareils déjà installés pourront continuer d'être utilisés, entretenus et réparés, mais des aides financières allant jusqu'à 11 000 € sont prévues pour encourager leur remplacement. Un décret paru au Journal officiel le 6 janvier 2022 fixe ces nouvelles dispositions. What about when selling the house?
Are they required to change to a non fioul system; like a septic tank?
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Post by suein56 on Jul 7, 2022 19:49:25 GMT 1
What about when selling the house? Are they required to change to a non fioul system; like a septic tank? No idea .. try Googling 'service public' like I did. |
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Post by ibis on Jul 7, 2022 19:56:03 GMT 1
What about when selling the house? Are they required to change to a non fioul system; like a septic tank? No idea .. try Googling 'service public' like I did. Someone will & hopefully post the information for newbies or those returning. |
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Post by Loiseau on Jul 7, 2022 23:41:20 GMT 1
Thank you so much, Suein56! I knew there must be an official directive, and it is as I thought. Good to see you can still get boiler serviced or repaired too.
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Post by landmannnn on Jul 8, 2022 10:56:08 GMT 1
A bit off topic... I heard both of these yesterday
My neighbour bought a garden furniture set. The table has a glass top. She bought a cover for it as she heard the glass top can catch fire in the sun.
A friend is completely convinced that patio heaters make you sick. She says it is the gas fumes. Apparently not the 2 bottles of Prosecco.
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Post by pcpa on Jul 8, 2022 11:11:29 GMT 1
What about when selling the house?
Are they required to change to a non fioul system; like a septic tank? There may be something in that. My property had had a poêle à fioul which had been removed before the sale, it has a fosse septique but despite my best efforts it has failed to produce enough heat for the house and the smell is offputting. |
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Post by annabellespapa on Jul 8, 2022 11:48:09 GMT 1
A bit off topic... I heard both of these yesterday My neighbour bought a garden furniture set. The table has a glass top. She bought a cover for it as she heard the glass top can catch fire in the sun. A friend is completely convinced that patio heaters make you sick. She says it is the gas fumes. Apparently not the 2 bottles of Prosecco. We had a glass top garden table that literally exploded in front of us, no one was near it or nothing on it, it was about 5 years old and shattered in to small pieces like a windscreen, I would never have one again, I don't think it would cause a fire, unless on a very hot day you left a cigarette lighter on it and that caught fire and made the glass top to shatter at the same time. Re- the patio heater, they are just wrong on every level, I have owned and used them in the past with no ill issues but we now have bought fleeces for all the chairs we have outside and if that isn't enough we come inside. |
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Post by pcpa on Jul 8, 2022 11:52:31 GMT 1
Re- the patio heater, they are just wrong on every level I completely agree. |
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Post by exile on Jul 8, 2022 12:43:42 GMT 1
I think that a glass top could under the wrong conditions cause a fire - but not catch fire itself.
The sun shining through may - if there are some flaws in the glass manufacture - be focused and if there is something combustible below then it could catch fire. It would be a rare event but not 100% guaranteed to not happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 14:50:51 GMT 1
You do not need to replace an oil boiler when you sell a property  You do not need to change a fosse either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 14:52:12 GMT 1
Your friend is getting confused .. from .. www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A15413#:~:text=Pour%20r%C3%A9duire%20l'%C3%A9mission%20de,'autres%20sources%20d'%C3%A9nergie. La fin des nouvelles chaudières au fioul ou au charbon à partir du 1er juillet 2022 Pour réduire l'émission de gaz à effet de serre, l'installation d'équipements de chauffage ou de production d'eau chaude fonctionnant au fioul sera interdite à partir du 1er juillet 2022, sauf en cas d'impossibilité d'usage d'autres sources d'énergie. Les appareils déjà installés pourront continuer d'être utilisés, entretenus et réparés, mais des aides financières allant jusqu'à 11 000 € sont prévues pour encourager leur remplacement. Un décret paru au Journal officiel le 6 janvier 2022 fixe ces nouvelles dispositions. What about when selling the house?
Are they required to change to a non fioul system; like a septic tank?
You do not need to change either IBIS |
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Post by landmannnn on Jul 8, 2022 17:30:49 GMT 1
Your friend is getting confused .. from .. www.service-public.fr/particuliers/actualites/A15413#:~:text=Pour%20r%C3%A9duire%20l'%C3%A9mission%20de,'autres%20sources%20d'%C3%A9nergie. La fin des nouvelles chaudières au fioul ou au charbon à partir du 1er juillet 2022 Pour réduire l'émission de gaz à effet de serre, l'installation d'équipements de chauffage ou de production d'eau chaude fonctionnant au fioul sera interdite à partir du 1er juillet 2022, sauf en cas d'impossibilité d'usage d'autres sources d'énergie. Les appareils déjà installés pourront continuer d'être utilisés, entretenus et réparés, mais des aides financières allant jusqu'à 11 000 € sont prévues pour encourager leur remplacement. Un décret paru au Journal officiel le 6 janvier 2022 fixe ces nouvelles dispositions. Reading through the link, I think it is saying that fossil fuels can be used provided the grammes of CO2 per kw are less than 300. A modern condensing boiler is around 200 to 250g. So am I correct in saying that a decent quality oil or gas boiler can be used in a new build? From 1to July 2022, new equipment settled for heating or hot water production in new or existing residential or commercial buildings will be required to meet a greenhouse gas emission limit of 300 gCO2eq/KWh PCI. This excludes the installation of new equipment that runs on fuel or coal, whose combustion actually exceeds this CO2 emission threshold, or of any apparatus that uses another energy source and whose performance does not comply with it. All new equipment using heat networks, electricity, biomass, solar or geothermal energy, gas, or liquid biofuel, including biofuel, made up partly of rapeseed oil, up to 10% or 20%, F10 or F20, provided that they meet the emission limit of 300 gCO2eq/KWh PCI. |
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