JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Aug 13, 2022 11:21:09 GMT 1
Anyone here heard of these? Whats the real reason for them I wonder?
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Post by lurcher on Aug 13, 2022 11:59:38 GMT 1
The first link leads to an extensive article, much of which was too difficult for me to absorb in one reading. Throughout I had suspicions that I was being given a very biased, personal view of the subject. Many of the concepts were beyond my experience and have not been publicised in my normal reading sources.
I will now return to watching something less demanding (European Championships) in the cool of our stone house in Central France.
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Post by hal on Aug 13, 2022 12:53:40 GMT 1
In one sentance, Freeports are bounded areas where producers can set up shop, and create goods free of tax until such goods leave the bounded area. A charter city takes the concept further by creating its own laws inside the bounded area - not considered good by many.
If I were in charge of brexitland after the majority turned numbhead, and seeing all the good industry deplete at an alarming rate (I cite the City of London as the biggest loss), I would have created many of these zones to encourage international manufacture to return, and I would have created a legal tax haven that appealed to the medium size international business. To an extent this exists for the Apples andGoogles, but the fools - apart from Sunak who sees this exactly the same - who run the place are not able to see the bigger picture nor stand up to the internatial political questioning that will follow.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2022 14:48:05 GMT 1
Anyone here heard of these? Whats the real reason for them I wonder?
If I remember rightly, when the were set up in the 80s Cardiff, Belfast Southampton and Prestwick were 4 of the six chosen. Certainly as far as Prestwick went it was accepted generally that it was chosen to bolster Thatcher cabinet member George Younger in whose constituency is was located. It's still there and it's still called the Freeport though it's no longer gated and guarded. It wasn't a success in "Freeport" terms. I don't know about the other five nor whether they were chosen for political or economic reasons. . |
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JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Aug 17, 2022 17:55:44 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2022 18:19:14 GMT 1
Since you raised the subject initially I've read a bit about them. Personally I wouldn't be happy. The franking issue number one but a host of other planning and development issues.
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Post by Aardvark on Aug 17, 2022 20:54:20 GMT 1
From Johnny D's link-
"Understandably, all this opacity is beginning to cause alarm. Some people have proposed an even more sinister agenda: the government wants to turn these places into “charter cities”, corporate fiefs in which environmental and workplace protections are almost entirely stripped away. There is, as yet, no evidence of this. But if any senior politician is biddable and extreme enough to extend the stupidities of freeports, it is Liz Truss. Last month she started promoting the idea of low-tax, low-regulation “investment zones”. As usual, she seemed to have little idea what she meant by this: the line was probably fed to her by some unaccountable thinktank. Is it a repackaging of freeports, or something else?"
The only way to promote these entities is to keep them shrouded in typical political spin (aka bullshit) to keep the general public from finding out what they really represent, and to elect complete numbskulls like Johnson and now Truss who are easily manipulated to sell them as a good idea. The big question is who is at the top, pushing the agenda, and there are any number of suspects.
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Post by Nifty on Aug 18, 2022 6:29:42 GMT 1
A matter of belief, ethics, intelligence, gullibility, fraudulence and positioning team players or sacking them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 10:38:22 GMT 1
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Post by cernunnos on Aug 18, 2022 10:53:03 GMT 1
Monbiot writes well and I agree with a lot of his conclusions , but he is barking up the wrong tree. First thing is to close down all cheap meat facilities , and that will never happen because those that eat it , love it! I would say a little guillotine goes a long way ! Revolution in the UK !!!  |
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Post by woolybanana on Aug 18, 2022 11:15:31 GMT 1
What other freeports are there in Europe or the world? In practice, are they dens of non regulation and iniquity or is Monbiot just berating the lack of the usual central controls and restrictions? Just asking.
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