JohnnyD
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Aug 17, 2022 12:59:21 GMT 1
Post by JohnnyD on Aug 17, 2022 12:59:21 GMT 1
If the fence dividing our properties belongs to next door, can I attach another fence to that one, or do I have to erect a new fence not touching theirs, they are selling, so just preparing for possible new neighbours if they are a problem.......I don't know who's fence it is yet, I need to ask
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Aug 17, 2022 13:17:11 GMT 1
Post by pcpa on Aug 17, 2022 13:17:11 GMT 1
"Whose fence is it?" is an interesting question, its not so much who bought and erected it but which neighbour is responsable for that boundary, I know that haies can be mitoyenne not sure about fences.
the previous owners of my property (since new in 1968) were the neighbours from hell, I have a chain link fence between myself and the next door neighbour and some time in the past he has erected a very solid concrete sectional fence, that was indeed set back a few inches and does not interfere with any of my fence posts.
I will have to check my acte de vente documents again, my problem will be the boundary with the chemin as it could be frappé d'alignement.
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Aug 17, 2022 13:19:04 GMT 1
Post by pcpa on Aug 17, 2022 13:19:04 GMT 1
Also you have the situation where the fence either has to be on the boundary or 1m behind it, something which could affect you and which you should check out, i may have recalled incorrectly and dont have any of my legal text books here to check.
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Aug 17, 2022 16:48:10 GMT 1
Post by jardiniere on Aug 17, 2022 16:48:10 GMT 1
I don't know who's fence it is yet, I need to ask Do you mean you don't know whose fence it is or you don't know whose boundary it is? If the latter, look on the cadastral plan in your deeds. Or look on cadastre.gouv.fr. A little dash at the side of the boundary indicates who's responsible. If responsibility is shared there'll be a dash on either side as is the case with the 3 boundaries at my new house. Then any changes depend on hopefully friendly negotiation with neighbours. I had to ask my neighbour's permission to put a trellis on top of our shared stone wall. Not a problem in this case.
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JohnnyD
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Aug 17, 2022 17:08:24 GMT 1
Post by JohnnyD on Aug 17, 2022 17:08:24 GMT 1
What does a cross and also a dot on a boundary mean?
Found something, the one we are interested in says it is 'Haie non mitoyenne' which translates as non semi detached hedge, what does that mean?
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Aug 17, 2022 23:03:19 GMT 1
Post by pcpa on Aug 17, 2022 23:03:19 GMT 1
It means it is not shared, one landowner has the responsability, it will be marked on the cadastral plan.
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JohnnyD
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Aug 18, 2022 7:28:08 GMT 1
Post by JohnnyD on Aug 18, 2022 7:28:08 GMT 1
I'm struggling to see how this is marked on the plan, like i say the only information on the boundary is the line with a cross on one side that means 'Haie non mitoyenne' ...... there is no other information on that boundary on the plan unless i am missing something? Does the side the cross is on indicate anything? It doesn't according to the legand info on the site
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Aug 18, 2022 7:45:56 GMT 1
Post by cernunnos on Aug 18, 2022 7:45:56 GMT 1
There should be boundary markers ( bornes) at each intersection of property where you can measure from . Most fences are put up on the boundary , hedges 50 cms away from it, 2m. for large trees. You can see who put the fence up by which side the wire/horizintal wood is on .
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Aug 18, 2022 8:39:59 GMT 1
Post by Le-Dolly on Aug 18, 2022 8:39:59 GMT 1
There should be boundary markers ( bornes) at each intersection of property where you can measure from . Most fences are put up on the boundary , hedges 50 cms away from it, 2m. for large trees. You can see who put the fence up by which side the wire/horizintal wood is on . Only in a perfect world. There are no markers on our or our neighbours properties.
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Aug 18, 2022 8:48:18 GMT 1
Post by cernunnos on Aug 18, 2022 8:48:18 GMT 1
There should be boundary markers ( bornes) at each intersection of property where you can measure from . Most fences are put up on the boundary , hedges 50 cms away from it, 2m. for large trees. You can see who put the fence up by which side the wire/horizintal wood is on . Only in a perfect world. There are no markers on our or our neighbours properties. There are on ours , but there was a "land war" here for years, bornes were moved or ploughed up . Anyone that seriously wants to know where the boundaries are , pays about €1000 to have them measured by a Geometre Expert. It is usually the person that doesn't agree with a fence or hedge that summons the Geometre and foots the bill. If the property is being sold and there is a boundary dispute , the Geometre will be paid for by the buyer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2022 12:01:01 GMT 1
The very first thing you need to settle a boundary issue is two reasonable parties. Measuring tapes, goemetres, and all that guff come after. I reckon I produced around 1000 cadastral plans to formalise parcels that had already been divided physically. In the less than one percent that didn't go smoothly there was a crackpot involved. And very little surface area.
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