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Post by pcpa on Aug 26, 2022 19:16:29 GMT 1
We thought that my walls were parpaing & doublage en terre cuite, my pal more than me because the thickness was 30cm but I wasn't convinced without drilling a test hole, I did not think the sous sol would have had the extra insulation. As we said "it is what it is" and still will be when I own it, even the diagnostiquer said that it was parpaing so I knew that it couldn't be I turns out that it is single skin briques creuses en terre cuite 30cm thick single skin on both levels.
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Post by pcpa on Aug 26, 2022 19:23:54 GMT 1
It has 5mil red brick as a cavity flobber called it by its proper name. just for my interest only as unfortunately I dont have the construction you have and was hoping to have, are the 5cm blocks spaced away from the presumably 20cm parpaings leaving an actual usable cavity or are they touching or practically? If there is a cavity then there would presumably be brick ties. My pal who is a serial self builder and was a salesman for several constructeurs is my go to guy for info, he says a cavity wall construction does exist and is called mur composite but that is different to the doublage en terre cuite which he spoke of seperately. I am just delighted to have something of a traditional construction but not so modern to be cardboard and something I understand and can increase the insulation, I really did not want a stone building.
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Post by flober on Aug 26, 2022 20:16:29 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 21:58:38 GMT 1
It has 5mil red brick as a cavity flobber called it by its proper name. just for my interest only as unfortunately I dont have the construction you have and was hoping to have, are the 5cm blocks spaced away from the presumably 20cm parpaings leaving an actual usable cavity or are they touching or practically? If there is a cavity then there would presumably be brick ties. My pal who is a serial self builder and was a salesman for several constructeurs is my go to guy for info, he says a cavity wall construction does exist and is called mur composite but that is different to the doublage en terre cuite which he spoke of seperately. I am just delighted to have something of a traditional construction but not so modern to be cardboard and something I understand and can increase the insulation, I really did not want a stone building. The gap is only a couple of mil the sockets just had a lump of plaster behind them and stuck to the grey blocks. The internal doors had nails banged into the frame and plastered into the red bricks. Wall ties not seen any yet. When the French doors are removed will have a better look for ties. This house was built on the cheap.
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Post by pcpa on Aug 27, 2022 1:05:02 GMT 1
Sounds standard and TBH far better than a new build in terms of being a solid house, thats what attracted me to mine, sure I have to add a hell of a lot of insulation but its a solid building.
Only a couple of mill gap is doublage so there will not be any ties.
What is the ceiling construction between the upper floor and the grenier?
Mine is the same plancher hourdis with entrevous en terre cuite, even the fermes in the roof are concrete blocks so its effectively divided into 3 with a couple of blocks missing at the bottom to crawl through.
The owner was a maçon and the house was built by himself and the company he worked for on off time.
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Post by flober on Aug 27, 2022 7:06:19 GMT 1
You didn't say that you had access to the grenier.So for cutting your access will be easier.
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Post by pcpa on Aug 27, 2022 10:03:22 GMT 1
There is a tiny gap where 2 entrevous have been removed, I can just squeeze my chest through, if you put a ladder up then you cannot get through hence the need for a proper hatch.
And if I cant resolve the issue of access through the parpaing fermes then it will be 3 hatches.
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Post by flober on Aug 27, 2022 10:36:18 GMT 1
aren't they pignons intermediaires ? I would imagine that if the guy was a macon, he would have built them as a cheaper option to paying someone to make the frames thus cutting the roof price down. Without seeing it's difficult to say really but why can't you put a lintol in and cut a doorway?
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Post by pcpa on Aug 27, 2022 13:34:27 GMT 1
I probably can, it was probably November the last time I managed to squeeze through, a pre purchase visit, since taking possession there have been far more priority tasks to take care of, that job wont be done for a couple of years, I only go up the stairs to the house of horrors to use the WC and it makes me feel sick just being up there, I plan to spray every surface with bleach before even starting demolition.
I dare not go into the grenier without someone standing by and its been far too hot to contemplate.
But in the meantime I gather info from kind folks like yourself.
I concur with your view of why the pignons intermediares (I used the wrong term) were done with parpaing other than its a really sh1te job and not done by any tradesperson let alone a mâcon.
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Post by pcpa on Aug 27, 2022 13:36:10 GMT 1
Its a very shallow pitch roof so any doorway would be like one in a Wendy House!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 22:40:27 GMT 1
Sounds standard and TBH far better than a new build in terms of being a solid house, thats what attracted me to mine, sure I have to add a hell of a lot of insulation but its a solid building. Only a couple of mill gap is doublage so there will not be any ties. What is the ceiling construction between the upper floor and the grenier? Mine is the same plancher hourdis with entrevous en terre cuite, even the fermes in the roof are concrete blocks so its effectively divided into 3 with a couple of blocks missing at the bottom to crawl through. The owner was a maçon and the house was built by himself and the company he worked for on off time. Timber roof modern style you cannot use the attic which is a shame as it's huge. Plasterboard ceiling with no supporting walls.
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