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Post by lurcher on Aug 25, 2022 20:04:53 GMT 1
Over 20 years ago we completely refurbished our bathroom and this involved pulling down the ceiling boards which were fixed to the beams. The floor above is a strange construction of large, hollow bricks resting on the beams. I decided to cut plain wallpaper to fit the gaps and glued them to the visible underside of the floor bricks. After several episodes of re-gluing this hot, dry summer has contrived to bring down the wallpaper in several places.
One of my plans was to cut plasterboard and somehow fix it between the beams. The ceiling underside is too scruffy and rough to leave it exposed. I am sure many members here will have had similar situations while renovating houses and I would appreciate any suggestions and advice before I start again.
Many thanks.
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Post by pcpa on Aug 25, 2022 20:39:42 GMT 1
There are some weird concepts that pass for renovation on this forum like painting rooms or pulling down ceilings and putting wallpaper on the underside of a beam and block dalle.
Can you not recall how the old ceiling was attached?
Google "Plafond ossature métallique", I would use suspentes, fourrures and cornières, there are also all manner of expensive deskilling solutions for taking the place of the suspentes and the fixings to the hollow blocks but by far and away the best will likely be the exact same way the ceiling that you ripped down was fixed.
20 years is a long time to put up with a concrete bathroom ceiling, I am midway through fitting a temporary WC and shower in the sous sol so as not to use the facilities in the caravan (no self respecting gen de voyage would ever do their business where they sleep and eat), they will only be used for very a short while and its a sous-sol garage but I will be fitting a plasterboard ceiling as an essential.
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Post by pcpa on Aug 25, 2022 20:46:11 GMT 1
Dont forget to put insulation between the suspended ceiling and the dalle, do not fix the ceiling directly to the plancher hourdis, not that you would be able to but as you managed to wallpaper to it then I felt the need to warn you, the ceiling should be decoupled which the ossature métallique system does. In France a plasterboard ceiling would never be fixed directly to floor joists above as in the UK, the reason for decoupling is for sound and thermal insulation and to avoid cracking, condensation and dampness.
Editted, reading your post again I see that the old ceiling boards were indeed fixed to the poutrelles.
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Post by houpla on Aug 25, 2022 21:13:46 GMT 1
Hi Lurcher, I'm afraid he's right  During our renovation, Oh was just about to fix the plasterboard to the beams when our lovely electrician warned him about the results if he did. So we trotted off to get the metal fixings that suspend the plasterboard and prevent the ceiling moving and cracking. Never regretted it! |
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Post by pcpa on Aug 25, 2022 21:35:34 GMT 1
Hi Lurcher, I'm afraid he's right If I talk rubbish for long enough it has to happen eventually! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 7:08:07 GMT 1
A quick and easy fix is to fit small wooden battons to either side of the beams and secure plasterboard inserts onto them.
Or a suspended plastic cladded ceiling.
Both simple and cheap to do.
Pictures shortly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 7:41:35 GMT 1
The first picture is a simple and cheap plasterboard insert.  This one is plastic cladding simple to put up in place and its a finished surface. Available from bricodepot 14 euros a sqm. All you need is a mastic gun and staples just level out the ceiling with cheap wooden straps. It really is quick and easy no skill required and is flexable so no chance of cracks.  |
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Post by lurcher on Aug 26, 2022 8:41:15 GMT 1
Thank you Mysty for your ideas and photos. The second one is not a starter for us as we needed to remove the rather low ceiling, exposing the beams and making the room much more attractive. Your first one shows the method I decided to follow and the reason for asking the question on the forum.
It is the method of fixing that I was searching for a sensible solution. There are many examples of plasterboard inserts in buildings I have visited with either visible shaped battens supporting them or maybe hidden behind. Fortunately it is only a moderate sized bathroom with easy access.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2022 9:10:54 GMT 1
Thank you Mysty for your ideas and photos. The second one is not a starter for us as we needed to remove the rather low ceiling, exposing the beams and making the room much more attractive. Your first one shows the method I decided to follow and the reason for asking the question on the forum. It is the method of fixing that I was searching for a sensible solution. There are many examples of plasterboard inserts in buildings I have visited with either visible shaped battens supporting them or maybe hidden behind. Fortunately it is only a moderate sized bathroom with easy access. Thanks its simple and cheap to do. |
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Post by Aardvark on Aug 26, 2022 13:01:36 GMT 1
Spoilsport.
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During our renovation, Oh was just about to fix the plasterboard to the beams when our lovely electrician warned him about the results if he did. So we trotted off to get the metal fixings that suspend the plasterboard and prevent the ceiling moving and cracking. Never regretted it!
