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Post by leclairon on Jul 29, 2021 14:55:20 GMT 1
Is permission needed to erect a car port? It would just be a covering of some sort on poles but open on all sides. Thanks
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Post by exile on Jul 29, 2021 15:42:11 GMT 1
Declaration de travaux is required despite the open sides and arguably temporary nature.
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Post by FFS on Jul 29, 2021 17:13:43 GMT 1
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Post by woolybanana on Jul 29, 2021 17:29:24 GMT 1
Does it depend on what it is described as?
Seems odd that a declaration is needed. Doubt that most of the locals would bother though in vase they had to pay extra taxes.
If t’were a wooden hut would permission be needed? Or, ostensibly, with guy ropes?
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Post by leclairon on Jul 29, 2021 19:11:12 GMT 1
OK.Thanks. I guessed we would need something if we decide to do it. I thought there was a size which was allowed without permission. What do they class as temporary? There are 'portable looking' carports at Brico Depot. I have seen various structures put up by locals and wondered if permissions had been needed. When we 'rebuilt' our garage which had fallen down, with the footings and foundations still in place, as were part of the walls, a local asked us if we had applied for a permis (which we had) and who was rebuilding it!
We know, as English, we have to be extra careful.
I have often wondered if structures were put up and then the property sold, wouldn't this be picked up in the 'diagnostics'?
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Post by leclairon on Jul 29, 2021 19:13:56 GMT 1
Just read that Gamm Vert article, thanks.
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Post by catrose on Jul 29, 2021 20:23:56 GMT 1
Haven’t read Gamm Vert article but in general under 5m2 then don’ need to do anything. 5-20m2 déclaration préalable, so just give form to Marie and nothing further happens. Above 20m2 have to apply for planning permission and will pay a one off tax and perhaps increase in annual taxes.
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Post by FFS on Jul 29, 2021 20:34:37 GMT 1
Haven’t read Gamm Vert article but in general under 5m2 then don’t need to do anything. 5-20m2 déclaration préalable, so just give form to Marie and nothing further happens. Above 20m2 have to apply for planning permission and will pay a one off tax and perhaps increase in annual taxes. I think that's spot on, catrose. Mind you, under 5m 2 is only big enough for a motorbike. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 20:37:38 GMT 1
If you use clear plastic coraggated (spelt wrong) sheeting no permit needed no mater what size it is.
That is classed as temporary.
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Post by leclairon on Jul 30, 2021 3:34:29 GMT 1
That's really interesting. Thanks. Am especially interested in the clear corrigated plastic. Had no idea that would be classed differently. OH used that to re-roof an old bread oven which we use as a potting shed, although that was a permanent structure on the cadastre. Useful to know for another little abri which needs re-roofing.
if you put a form into the mairie for a prealable up to 20m, does that also generate the H1 to the Impots?
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Post by Aardvark on Jul 30, 2021 8:45:22 GMT 1
OK.Thanks. I guessed we would need something if we decide to do it. I thought there was a size which was allowed without permission. What do they class as temporary? There are 'portable looking' carports at Brico Depot. I have seen various structures put up by locals and wondered if permissions had been needed. When we 'rebuilt' our garage which had fallen down, with the footings and foundations still in place, as were part of the walls, a local asked us if we had applied for a permis (which we had) and who was rebuilding it!
We know, as English, we have to be extra careful.
I have often wondered if structures were put up and then the property sold, wouldn't this be picked up in the 'diagnostics'?
Previous to being put on the market, my place had a good-sized garage. It had been there for years but was removed. (frowning smiley) No doubt that had no permission and the seller was concerned about action being taken at the point of sale. I have read that any sort of concrete base must be declared, no matter how small so my garden sheds are sitting on balks of timber with a covering of polythene to limit the dampness inside. A few years ago one of them was destroyed in a gale. Proving that they are "temporary". |
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Post by ajm on Jul 30, 2021 11:07:35 GMT 1
Haven’t read Gamm Vert article but in general under 5m2 then don’t need to do anything. 5-20m2 déclaration préalable, so just give form to Marie and nothing further happens. Above 20m2 have to apply for planning permission and will pay a one off tax and perhaps increase in annual taxes. I think that's spot on, catrose . Mind you, under 5m 2 is only big enough for a motorbike. Do you mean 5m2 or 5 sq. metres? |
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Post by FFS on Jul 30, 2021 11:37:25 GMT 1
I think that's spot on, catrose . Mind you, under 5m 2 is only big enough for a motorbike. Do you mean 5m2 or 5 sq. metres? 5 square metres. |
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Post by exile on Jul 30, 2021 12:26:22 GMT 1
I think that's spot on, catrose . Mind you, under 5m 2 is only big enough for a motorbike. Do you mean 5m2 or 5 sq. metres? They are the same thing. As opposed to a 5 metre square = 25m2. |
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Post by seagoon on Jul 30, 2021 19:36:27 GMT 1
If you use clear plastic coraggated (spelt wrong) sheeting no permit needed no mater what size it is. That is classed as temporary. I believe that clear plastic corrugated sheeting is known as polyester ondulé in France and I would be well-pleased to have this as a possible solution to a situation I have, ie not needing to apply for a permit - do you have an authoritative source for that information above, Mysty? It's not that I doubt you, dear chap, not at all, it's simply to have a reference to show if ever Monsieur le Maire, or one of his officious minions, comes round asking pointed questions. |
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