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Spanc
Nov 18, 2022 10:44:30 GMT 1
Post by mangetout on Nov 18, 2022 10:44:30 GMT 1
Just had a pre sale diagnostic. Technicien said all was OK except I need another 'regard' to verify the length of the filter bed. Great. But no, just got the report and it says my bac a graisse empties direct into the filter and either needs to be enlarged significantly, or connected to the fosse. So it doesn't conform. But it is connected direct to the fosse. I know, because when it was emptied in May I asked the technicien to fill it up so I could see where it emptied. And it emptied into the fosse. The Spanc guy was here for less than 20 minutes, lifted the covers, said OK, and off he went. No flow test, no investigations at all. I've told them they've got it wrong but they're not interested. What can I do?
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Aardvark
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Living in soggy 22 and still wondering what's going on.
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Spanc
Nov 18, 2022 10:54:09 GMT 1
Post by Aardvark on Nov 18, 2022 10:54:09 GMT 1
Ignore it?
Unless the system can be proven to be polluting the environment I don't see why you have to worry.
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Post by houpla on Nov 18, 2022 11:00:08 GMT 1
Firstly, don't stress about it. They're known for incompetence and intransigence (at least here in 47). I'd make up a dossier of pictorial and historical evidence, if you can, to present to the agents, notaire and any prospective purchasers along with the SPANC report. Outline why you haven't taken the actions that they recommend and that you've had no response to your queries.
After constructing a fosse toutes eaux and double filter bed strictly according to their instructions, they refused to certify it because (guess what?) it should have had an extra regard in the filter bed. 16 years on, it's all been quietly forgotten and they haven't even been round for the last two 4-yearly inspections. Should we ever sell up, the buyers will have plenty of proof of conformity on our part and stupidity on theirs.
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Spanc
Nov 18, 2022 11:29:13 GMT 1
Post by mangetout on Nov 18, 2022 11:29:13 GMT 1
Ignore it? Unless the system can be proven to be polluting the environment I don't see why you have to worry. I can't ignore it. I'm selling and the result of their error means my fosse doesn't conform. So potential buyers will either be put off or try to negotiate the price of a new fosse off my asking price. |
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Spanc
Nov 18, 2022 12:35:25 GMT 1
Post by flober on Nov 18, 2022 12:35:25 GMT 1
Why would they negociate a new fosse when its only a few joints a yjunction and some pipe to join into the inlet pipe before the fosse ?
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Spanc
Nov 18, 2022 13:10:55 GMT 1
Post by houpla on Nov 18, 2022 13:10:55 GMT 1
Woah! Doesn't that rather depend on the situation of the fosse and the pipework in any given situation? For some folks, it could be major earthworks and disruption!
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Post by flober on Nov 18, 2022 13:59:31 GMT 1
Rare that a grease trap is more then 10 meters from the fosse,it can happen of course but a new fosse because the grease trap isn't connectted I think not
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Post by Polarengineer on Nov 18, 2022 13:59:50 GMT 1
Tell them you have completed the modifications and invite them for inspection. Have the grease bac ready to show it goes to the fosse. As for the regard, if that was not in the report, ignore it.
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Spanc
Nov 18, 2022 16:38:29 GMT 1
Post by mangetout on Nov 18, 2022 16:38:29 GMT 1
Why would they negociate a new fosse when its only a few joints a yjunction and some pipe to join into the inlet pipe before the fosse ? You're missing the point. It is connected to the fosse. They got it wrong. |
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Post by mangetout on Nov 18, 2022 16:40:45 GMT 1
And anyway, after me wiping the floor with them, they've said they will send a corrected report. Must be a first for Spanc.
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curtis
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Charente Maritime
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Spanc
Nov 18, 2022 17:17:39 GMT 1
Post by curtis on Nov 18, 2022 17:17:39 GMT 1
Bravo!!
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Aardvark
Non-gamer
Living in soggy 22 and still wondering what's going on.
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Spanc
Nov 18, 2022 17:36:00 GMT 1
Post by Aardvark on Nov 18, 2022 17:36:00 GMT 1
Yes Bravo!
Spanc must have installed an "app" for common sense.
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Post by mangetout on Nov 18, 2022 19:19:33 GMT 1
I'm still waiting for the corrected report. I'll belief it when I see it. But if I don't get it I'm going to kick up a stink. I'm not in the mood to be messed with.
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Post by pcpa on Nov 18, 2022 22:08:40 GMT 1
Kick up a stink, - I see what you did there!  I'll believe it when you see it as well, very hard to make anyone in France admit they were wrong or change a decision unless you find a way for them to not lose face in their minds. |
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Post by mangetout on Dec 14, 2022 16:51:23 GMT 1
Well I'm blowed, I got the new Spanc report and they have accepted that they were wrong without any further argument. The system still officially fails because I need to install new regards but that's nothing and I accept it as correct. I am surprised but I did wipe the floor with them. Had my husband been alive he would have wanted me to be respectful, but I was free to let my feelings be known, loud and clear. Maybe that's the way to deal with the administration in France.
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