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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 21:35:07 GMT 1
I am currently looking to have a molar implant following a tooth out a couple of months back. Does anyone have any experience of this kind of thing ? Merci
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 22:28:07 GMT 1
I am currently looking to have a molar implant following a tooth out a couple of months back. Does anyone have any experience of this kind of thing ? Merci Yes. Lots. Are you sure that one lost tooth warrants this? If you've got the other 31 (or 27 if you've had your wisdom teeth out) I'd first make sure it's something you need.
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Post by curtis on Jul 29, 2021 22:34:09 GMT 1
Just started having four and two bridges put in , three days ago. Efficient but not very comfortable beginning. Painful on wallet too. Let you know if it is worth it in several months time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2021 6:14:39 GMT 1
I am currently looking to have a molar implant following a tooth out a couple of months back. Does anyone have any experience of this kind of thing ? Merci Yes. Lots. Are you sure that one lost tooth warrants this? If you've got the other 31 (or 27 if you've had your wisdom teeth out) I'd first make sure it's something you need. Yes, that’s exactly my feeling. The tooth extraction has taken about two months to sort out with pain for most of the time rendering it painful to eat on that side. The pain has just about gone and I have just started using that side though it does feel strange. I saw a stomatologue who presented me with an estimate of 900€ , nice work if you can get it ! That’s just for the implant apparently. The crown is fitted later for some reason ?How much will that then cost ? Can or does an ‘ordinary’ dentist fit implants , would it be cheaper etc Merci.
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Post by captainmorgan on Jul 30, 2021 9:38:28 GMT 1
Two French friends who needed implants went to Budapest for the procedures. Apparently much cheaper.
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Post by curtis on Jul 30, 2021 10:03:31 GMT 1
Four implants + two bridges = €8000
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Post by ajm on Jul 30, 2021 10:11:11 GMT 1
Four implants + two bridges = €8000 What is refundable from your mutual and CPAM?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2021 10:37:09 GMT 1
Will reply properly later. V busy just now.
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Post by FFS on Jul 30, 2021 11:47:08 GMT 1
Four implants + two bridges = €8000 Ouch!
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Post by hal on Jul 30, 2021 11:55:29 GMT 1
Implants are the way forward. Crowns are passe now.
Not cheap and not every dentist can do them but more and more are doing them.
I have had gum desease all my life (this is where the gums do not adhere properly to the teeth allowing bacteria to the root where it infects the bone. There is no 'cure' other than false teeth. But with implant technology, it is possible to have what is called 'All on 4' where a complete set of teeth in resin sits on four implants. I went for this but opted for a stronger anchorage and had an 'All on 6' top and bottom, so this in effect is two resin teeth sitting on a single implant. Perfect result - a solid chew, exactly the same as having original teeth and best of all no more tenderness under the gum line. Yes, very expensive. But to me, worth every penny and more.
Many adverts for dental holidays where implants and 'All on 4s' are half price. DO NOT USE THEM. Sometimes the body can reject an implant and no dentist back home will attempt a rectification. Also in the case of 'All on 4' procedures, the jawbone changes shape after six months requiring a new set of permanent bridges to be made. It is unlikey you will find a dentist to do this on implants that were not put in by him or her.
Not refundable on carte vitale or mutuelle UNLESS your dentist will say that the implant is necessary because a crown cannot be done and without an implant. lifestyle is impared.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2021 12:18:49 GMT 1
Replacement of teeth by implant-supported prostheses is extremely complex and depends on many factors such as medical history, local anatomy, position, quality of supporting bone and a host of other, sometimes quite technical, reasons.
Firstly do no harm. In other words what would the implant do to improve your life compared with the risks. If you don't need one, why get one (or more)?
Other people's experiences are pretty much irrelevant because each patient is different. While it's comforting to hear that many folk have had successful implants it doesn't follow that everyone can expect that success.
As for costs (bear in mind I'm going back over 10 years) - the material cost for an osseo-integrated implant (basically the drill tip and implant) is, around £150.Add to that time, pre- and post-op assessment and the surgeons skill then anything under £1k per implant is, suspiciously cheap. I'd be thinking £1500 per implant. Expect maybe 300 to 500 for the crown or other superstructure. There's a reason why you can get cheap treatment in Hungary, Czechia etc - their overheads are lower and they aren't going to be there if things fail (which, sadly, is increasingly likely as the price falls).
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1. Do you need one (or more)? Is no treatment or an alternative prosthesis more appropriate?
2. Is the surgeon doing full pre-op assessment and are they fully qualified and experienced?
3. Can you afford it?
4. Are you prepared to accept failure at your cost if the implant(s) doesn't integrate?
5. Do you smoke? If yes you should NOT be offered an implant.
Ideally, the implant should be placed by the same person who provides the crown so that the implant placement and positioning is done with due regard to the finishing prosthesis. I think this is quite important. At the very least the surgeon should liaise with the dentist on this point.
I never placed implants for prosthetic purposes without the dentist's agreement on placement. The implant and prosthesis are separate units which must integrate properly in the treatment plan.
Hope that helps
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2021 12:38:28 GMT 1
Brilliant, thanks jsks.
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Post by lindalovely on Jul 30, 2021 14:10:04 GMT 1
I had a single implant done for a molar, in France. I didn't like the gap and the teeth either side were not stable enough for a bridge ( but having had a bridge before that I don't particularly like, I wouldn't go down that route again). The process took a while, because I needed a bone graft. So all in all six months for the bone to consolidate, another 3 months for the implant to integrate into the bone, and then the crown fitted. Process itself was relatively quick and painless and the resulting prosthesis feels better than anything else in my mouth. They don't like to do them if you smoke and you have to pay special attention to your dental hygiene before and after. Cost was around 2000 euros in total. Some of the cost of the crown was reimbursed but not the implant. I'd happily do it again.
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Post by curtis on Jul 30, 2021 15:47:28 GMT 1
Four implants + two bridges = €8000 What is refundable from your mutual and CPAM? €2000
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Post by leclairon on Jul 30, 2021 15:59:24 GMT 1
I had an implant done in the UK about 11years ago and, from memory, it cost over£1000 then. Absolutely fine, no problems. However, as I mentioned in another thread, I am now searching for a periodontist (gum treatment).There seems to be at least a 6 month wait in France (February 2022 RV) and even that is travelling some distance.
The regular dentist did say I should have the implant checked so don't know what is going on there or whether it is just something affected by the gum disease, of which I was not aware anyway.
I can get a RV in the UK within 6 weeks so am thinking I will try and get over there in a few weeks' time if the Covid measures have been relaxed.
The health services in France have been fantastic so am not sure why there seems to be such a dearth of dental practitioners.
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