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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2022 18:24:12 GMT 1
Has anyone ever come across this word. Brasses. I am guessing it's 4m2 going by the price. It's in the Cantal and they have there own words.
Brasses de bois Coupées en 50 cms Chene ét hêtre Livrée 270€ la brasse
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Post by robertarthur on Dec 19, 2022 19:10:57 GMT 1
Mysty2, first time for me
Wikipédia: La brasse est une mesure équivalant à 1,8288 mètre, correspondant à l'envergure des bras, de l'extrémité des doigts d'une main à l'autre. Jadis omniprésente, cette unité de mesure n'est plus usitée que dans la marine, permettant de mesurer les cordages, les filins ainsi que la profondeur des fonds marins.
Elsewhere, about the stère: Quelle est la longueur de cette stère de bois? Par exemple, une stère de bois occupe 1 mètre cube et est composée de buches de 1 mètre de long mais si on coupe ces bûches en 2 bûches de 50 cm de long, elles occupent 0.8 m3 car il est plus facile de combler les vides.
To be on the safe side: ask them how many stères this is, probaly around the four you already mentioned.
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Post by pcpa on Dec 19, 2022 20:18:53 GMT 1
It's a word from my new region that has all but been lost.
It would seem that Mystys 4m3 is correct but it could be a different measure according to the ville, it might even be an imperial measure!
Mots perdu du Périgord... suite des B... début des C...
Publié par Bernard Stéphan sur 30 Juillet 2012, 16:58pm
Brasse (n.f.). de l’occitan (provençal) brassa, du latin brachi, signifiant dans son sens d’origine la longueur entre deux bras écartés. Unité locale de mesure du bois de chauffage de 4 m3. Une brasse de bois équivaut à un tas de bois empilé en cube, dont la longueur du cube est de quatre mètres, sa hauteur d’un mètre et sa largeur (longueur de chaque morceau de bois) d’un mètre. L’expression bois de brasse désigne communément les bûches provenant d’une coupe ainsi préparée par le bûcheronnage ou le taillis lui-même destinée à cette coupe et à cet usage.
Mais il y a des variantes régionales. J’ai ainsi retrouvé une étude sur la brasse de bois avec La table des poids et mesures de Jacques François Lescan. Il y évoque la brasse de bois de La Réole en Gironde. « La brasse de bois de La Réole est un parallélépipède rectangle qui a 5 pieds de long, 5 pieds de large et 3 pieds de hauteur ; elle équivaut à 75 pieds cubes qui égalent 2,5708 stères. »
Dans le Haut-Agenais, dans la vallée du Dropt, un mémoire des Archives de la Compagnie de Navigation du Dropt daté de la fin du XIXè siècle précise que la brasse de bois correspond à 4 stères.
Plus à l’Est, en Corrèze, la brasse de Brive valait 2,329 stères alors que la brasse de Tulle correspondait à 2,14 stères.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2022 21:23:59 GMT 1
Thanks for the help I have sent a message it's not easy finding dry firewood just now. We are not about to run out and we have electric central heating but the wood burner is a great backup. I did find firewood on Saturday and drove the old van almost 45 minutes to pick it up. I asked for an address and he said we are behind the Renault garage. I drove up and was 30 minutes early there was no wood yard which is what I was expecting just a group of very run down gypsy caravans. I turned around and went to bricodepot instead. It was probably counterfeit oak and would not have been dry. It was cheap though.😄
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Post by robertarthur on Dec 19, 2022 21:49:12 GMT 1
Heating is popular, also for those who tried to sell solar panels (the phone rings...) or double-glazing. To be replaced by firewood and woodburning stoves. Internet fraud, read all about in the French press: Arnaque au bois de chauffage: attention à ces offres en ligne. Bois de chauffage: Attention aux sites de vente en ligneIt's not rocket science these days to build a perfect lookalike website, wrong bank account..... The guys in blue must be working overtime: << Les enquêteurs découvrent que des individus, issus majoritairement du Bénin, encaissent l’argent lié à des ventes de bois via divers comptes souscrits avec des identités usurpées. Une fois le virement obtenu, ils transfèrent la somme à l’étranger, où se trouvent les donneurs d’ordres, en prenant une commission au passage.
Gendarmerie nationale >>
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Post by cernunnos on Dec 20, 2022 8:48:31 GMT 1
A bras or brasse of firewood is an old measurement , it can be various amounts , so watch out. Best way to buy firewood is locally in the Summer and pay cash on delivery . One sterre of firewood is a measurement of stacked wood cut and split in meters by a meter high/long. Buying a stere of firewood that is then cut into 50cm lengths for burning decreases the actual amount of wood by 20% ( less air) I know , having cut/split,stacked and sold firewood for more thn 30 years
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Post by pcpa on Dec 20, 2022 10:56:20 GMT 1
Buying a stere of firewood that is then cut into 50cm lengths for burning decreases the actual amount of wood by 20% ( less air) Unless the kerf from your saw blade is 20cm wide I think you meant to say the stacked volume is decreased by 20%, this happens because the logs are irregular, when shorter they stack closer, if they were perfect uniform cylinders the stacked volume would be unchanged aside from the kerf width loss.
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Post by Aardvark on Dec 20, 2022 15:56:10 GMT 1
While overwintering in the Charente several years ago we were stung when buying firewood. The measurement term used (I can't remember) was a new word to us but the price seemed normal and he assured us it was dry and ready to use immediately. When it arrived it was mainly metre long planks sawn from the outside of the log. The bit with the bark on it and full of insects. In the process of unloading it the driver didn't notice his tipper was under the entry lintel to the barn and as he moved forward he brought the lot down. The old oak lintel and one of the stone pillars that held it aloft. After that incident we always took our firewood down from Brittany every winter.
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Post by glazedallover on Dec 20, 2022 16:41:03 GMT 1
The only other measurement term I know other than stère is a corde.
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Post by cernunnos on Dec 20, 2022 18:02:07 GMT 1
Buying a stere of firewood that is then cut into 50cm lengths for burning decreases the actual amount of wood by 20% ( less air) Unless the kerf from your saw blade is 20cm wide I think you meant to say the stacked volume is decreased by 20%, this happens because the logs are irregular, when shorter they stack closer, if they were perfect uniform cylinders the stacked volume would be unchanged aside from the kerf width loss.
Basically you think you have bought 1 m3 but in fact when it is cut to 50cm , it is 0.80m3, cut into 25cm it becomes 0.60m3
Strange but true . Research shows that a corde is 3 sterre and a Brasse is 4 sterre.
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Post by omegal on Dec 20, 2022 21:46:52 GMT 1
Down South we would order 4 steres making it a bras, on moving to the North we would order in cordes...3 steres
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Post by Aardvark on Dec 21, 2022 12:03:21 GMT 1
While overwintering in the Charente several years ago we were stung when buying firewood. The measurement term used (I can't remember) was a new word to us but the price seemed normal and he assured us it was dry and ready to use immediately. When it arrived it was mainly metre long planks sawn from the outside of the log. The bit with the bark on it and full of insects. In the process of unloading it the driver didn't notice his tipper was under the entry lintel to the barn and as he moved forward he brought the lot down. The old oak lintel and one of the stone pillars that held it aloft. After that incident we always took our firewood down from Brittany every winter. Can anyone confirm the second word in my post? I wrote O V E R W I N T E R I N G in my post but when I read the post in the thread it says O V E R F L O W I N G . Very strange indeed.
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Post by pcpa on Dec 21, 2022 13:41:50 GMT 1
It read and still reads "overwintering"
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Post by pcpa on Dec 21, 2022 13:42:55 GMT 1
No different when quoted. While overwintering in the Charente several years ago we were stung
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Post by suein56 on Dec 21, 2022 13:50:02 GMT 1
While overwintering in the Charente several years ago we were stung when buying firewood. Can anyone confirm the second word in my post? I wrote O V E R W I N T E R I N G in my post but when I read the post in the thread it says O V E R F L O W I N G . Very strange indeed. Agreed .. your forum post says 'overwintering' ..
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