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Post by pcpa on Dec 21, 2022 13:52:17 GMT 1
You read a book 🧐 why if you want to know anything you can ask on here. Ats reads as well it does her eye in when she could be doing other things woman do.😁 I read more hours a week than most people watch TV or use social media, I get rid of anything that I would not like to read again and despite that have a very large collection of "keepers", I was sending vanloads of books to the Phoenix charity long before I moved to the area and can now purchase and recycle through them. I have not had a TV to watch for over a year and don't miss it in the slightest, that said for the last few days I have TV where I am but this stay has not become the TV bingefest that it would once have done. I went without TV for 18 months in the past and without UK TV for probably 4 years.
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Post by lindalovely on Dec 21, 2022 14:06:11 GMT 1
Actually, we had a much loved Queen for the longest period. Hardly a male hierarchy. With Mrs Markle there has been a clash of cultures, between the Royal Keep Quiet and Solve Problems in the Family and the American Let it all Hang Out, Public Acclaim by Insinuation. I feel sorry for Harry in all this. Just because the Queen was female doesn't mean that it isn't a male hierarchy. In fact one could say it emphasized it. I doubt The Queen had a whole load of female advisors telling her what to do..it is the (white) men in grey suits that run the monarchy..not the people in the costumes. Harry seems pretty happy. You forget he is Diana's son. Diana who did not keep quiet and solve problems but was happy to let them all hang out. It didn't end well for her. I guess Harry realises this and doesn't want the same outcome. I feel more sorry for William and his kids, who are increasingly looking more and more uncomfortable in their stuffy suits and grey clothes.
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Post by woolybanana on Dec 21, 2022 14:37:57 GMT 1
Again, Linda, speculation; where are the facts to back this up? The same with Mrs Markle, as she alleges much but has few facts in her arguments, the Hollywood way?
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Post by jackie on Dec 21, 2022 14:41:39 GMT 1
What would have been your reaction had the article been written by a feminist about Nigel Farage or Boris Johnson? I dislike Clarkson, understatement, but it's what he does and all the time people pay to view his utterings he will continue to push the envelope. I have read worse on here many times. I was pleased when he decked that producer, I naively thought it would be the end of his career, how wrong I was, it was (I believe) a deliberate move for the whole team to get out of their BBC (or was it CH4?) contract to make even more money. I have read one of his books, I don't get a lot of choice and it was the bottom of the barrel, I won't be reading another, it was a compilation of his newspaper articles, with that as a background this article does not surprise me at all, the backlash certainly has and if that means he judged it wrong then tant mieux! Well to my knowledge noone has written anything in a National newspaper about a male person in the public eye that contains the same level of vitriol so it’s a hypothetical question really. So you’ve read worse on here many times? What at the same level as saying you want someone paraded naked in public being pelted with excrement? I’m sure it would be deleted swiftly by the mods and rightly so. If not can you provide examples?
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Post by ForumUser2 on Dec 21, 2022 14:48:07 GMT 1
It just goes to show that if you are a self-entitled, narcissistic attention-seeker who discovers that marrying a Prince doesn't automatically entitle you to become the lead in a real life soap opera you can still get all the attention you need by delivering 6 hours of woo woo fantasy. It also helps if your husband is more labrador than intellectual.
His father must be truly embarrassed. And the King must be, too.
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Post by woolybanana on Dec 21, 2022 14:54:03 GMT 1
FU2,:that is the best post I have ever read on the subject!
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Post by mangetout on Dec 21, 2022 15:38:34 GMT 1
I think what Ckarkson said was way out of order. It encourages hatred towards women. BUT I think what Harry and Meghan have done is on a par. To prepare to trash your own family, as evidenced by their careful preparation from day one by photographing and videoing their every move, shows a deep cynicism. And a level of unparalleled greed and entitlement. Imagine doing that to your family. I can't, no matter what our differences.
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Post by lindalovely on Dec 21, 2022 16:57:33 GMT 1
Again, Linda, speculation; where are the facts to back this up? The same with Mrs Markle, as she alleges much but has few facts in her arguments, the Hollywood way? Where are any of the 'facts'. Everything about the Royal family is made up. I honestly couldn't care about any of them but here's something for you to ponder. If someone said to you "you can have as much money as you want, you can live a comfortable life with servants and be known wherever you go, but the downside is, you are not free to say what you wish or do what you wish, you can't wear what you want, you can't choose whether you have children or not and you will be forever in the public eye and whatever gets said about you, you can never put your side of the story." Would you think.. 'great that's a good deal'.. or 'no that is not a price worth paying'. In a sense that is a choice anyone marrying into the royal family is faced with. However, if you are born into the royal family this is thrust on you by birth, with no choice at all, other than do what Harry has done and leave or spend the rest of his life in arranged marriage with someone he doesn't love, as his father was forced to do until Diana died. (That's a known fact as well) It is also a fact that Diana didn't follow the rules and told her story to the press, much as Harry has done. Harry also isn't the first Royal to decide the sacrifice is too great. Meghan isn't the first woman to be vilified by the press and flee to the States (Sarah..everyone blamed her for bailing out at the time but looking at it now she absolutely did the right thing) However (and this isn't fact but my opinion) I think the whole concept of a Royal Family that have to take part in this bizarre charade in full public display, with no power to do anything ..really no more than a bunch of puppets dressed up to suit the occasion is actually abusive. No one should be denied the right to decide their future.
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Post by woolybanana on Dec 21, 2022 17:06:36 GMT 1
Yes, let’s replace them with…….Tony Blair, Michael Barrymore, Jeremy Corbyn ? I think I will stick with the present lot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2022 18:20:41 GMT 1
It just goes to show that if you are a self-entitled, narcissistic attention-seeker who discovers that marrying a Prince doesn't automatically entitle you to become the lead in a real life soap opera you can still get all the attention you need by delivering 6 hours of woo woo fantasy. It also helps if your husband is more labrador than intellectual. His father must be truly embarrassed. And the King must be, too. I'm assuming you were not hanging out at the palace when all this allegedly happened no one other than the few involved know what was said and done. This forum like all others is looking for facts which in my expert opinion your post lacks. And the fact that woolybannana says great post makes it even less credible. I hope we can remain friends with having a different prospective on this delicate issue. 😄
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Post by woolybanana on Dec 21, 2022 18:27:39 GMT 1
Dont worry, mystry2, I will always be your friend but please dont ask to borrow money from me!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2022 18:36:28 GMT 1
Dont worry, mystry2, I will always be your friend but please dont ask to borrow money from me! Why the house would be bought in your name and the profit split would be substantially higher than any bank would offer. 😁
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Post by cernunnos on Dec 21, 2022 19:37:07 GMT 1
THEY ( M & H )have achieved their goal EVERYONE is talking about them , even a immigrant forum in France!
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Post by pcpa on Dec 21, 2022 19:42:30 GMT 1
A bank offering profit, thats an interesting concept!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2022 20:26:33 GMT 1
A bank offering profit, thats an interesting concept! That's what happens when you don't read books your brain thinks it used the right word but it should have been interest.😁
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