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Post by pcpa on Jan 16, 2023 18:03:05 GMT 1
Coming soon ( if you after not already there) to be charged for the privilege of transporting scrap that is sorted into landfill and items of various value and utility. Already there, using the TGAP (taxe globale sur les acitivités polluante) as an excuse I am now allowed only 8 rubbish collections a year and to visit the déchetterie once every 2 weeks to give them materials to resell and I have to pay the increased cost of €260 for the priveledge. They will only collect a maximum of 120 litres every 6 & a bit weeks which I won't get anywhere near but even if I did that amounts to 960l, under 1m3 which equates to 461kg of rubbish. The TGAP is currently €15 per tonne so my rubbish will incur a maximum of €7.50 of the new tax, more like €5, ever feel you have been had?
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Post by cernunnos on Jan 16, 2023 18:12:35 GMT 1
When that day arrives I will most likely have to resort to the traditional French way of disposing of rubbish. The garden surrounding my previous hovel was a treasure trove just a few inches (or centimetres) below the surface. Everything from alarm clocks to a 2cv were buried there. Seeing some of the fly tipping reports on UK TV , call it the trad. Brit way . We cleared up all the rubbish buried in our woods and land , people seem to forget that it was only 30 years ago that rubbish started to be collected, so the French in the countryside had no other option !
There are various possibilities to have electronics recycled
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Post by Nifty on Jan 16, 2023 21:22:11 GMT 1
Coming soon ( if you after not already there) to be charged for the privilege of transporting scrap that is sorted into landfill and items of various value and utility. Already there, using the TGAP (taxe globale sur les acitivités polluante) as an excuse I am now allowed only 8 rubbish collections a year and to visit the déchetterie once every 2 weeks to give them materials to resell and I have to pay the increased cost of €260 for the priveledge. They will only collect a maximum of 120 litres every 6 & a bit weeks which I won't get anywhere near but even if I did that amounts to 960l, under 1m3 which equates to 461kg of rubbish. The TGAP is currently €15 per tonne so my rubbish will incur a maximum of €7.50 of the new tax, more like €5, ever feel you have been had? Sighn :-0 of The Times.
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Post by pcpa on Jan 16, 2023 21:49:38 GMT 1
people seem to forget that it was only 30 years ago that rubbish started to be collected Is that really so? I have been coming to France for 35 years now and I always recall rubbish collections in rural areas, granted many had to take their refuse to communal collection points which is becoming even more prevalent now. How many years since bonfires have been generally interdit? I say generally because it may not even be 100% of communes now and it will have spread gradually. I think they should be allowed, its crazy that I have to burn diesel to take burnable garden waste to the déchetterie and even one small sack of it will count as one of my 26 permitted visits per year.
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Post by cernunnos on Jan 17, 2023 10:05:21 GMT 1
Yes , it is really so , there was no collection when I moved here 32 years ago. Open fires are not allowed anywhere in France except for burning farming/forestry waste .
"il est interdit brûler des déchets verts (végétaux secs ou humides) chez soi, que ce soit avec un incinérateur de jardin ou à l'air libre." quote from Service-Public.fr
Here in 87 everyone can take their garden waste to the dechetterie where it is made into compost , there is no limit in the amount .
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Post by Nifty on Jan 17, 2023 10:34:12 GMT 1
It is the same in 40. At least it was a year or so ago, but, as somebody said, The Times They Are A Changin'
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Post by pcpa on Jan 17, 2023 12:21:23 GMT 1
Here in 87 everyone can take their garden waste to the dechetterie where it is made into compost , there is no limit in the amount . That is how it should be but the mafia of SMD3 who have been given the responsability for waste collection and disposal, sorry that should read "the license to print money" put proximity card barriers up which record our visits, you used to be able to get to the green waste area without driving through them but that changed this year with the limited number of visits and the charging it you go any more often, even if its to give them a carrier bag full of materials which they resell, which is everything there except the tout venant bin. Our commune will collect green waste but at a charge of €30 per m3.
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Post by Aardvark on Jan 17, 2023 12:38:23 GMT 1
Here in 87 everyone can take their garden waste to the dechetterie where it is made into compost , there is no limit in the amount . Same here in 22. I wonder how the older folks get on. At some point loading a trailer and driving to the tip will not be possible for everyone. I struggle a bit pushing the trailer around to hook it up (sloping ground) but still managing to get it done.
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Post by annabellespapa on Jan 17, 2023 16:46:52 GMT 1
Same as Aardvark I am in 22 Brittany also and the dechetterie service is excellent, I have been here since Sunday and have made three trips, admittedly they are only open for restricted hours, 3.5 hours in either the morning or afternoon but I have a choice of two tips both within a ten minute drive.
When we first purchased here (22 years ago), the tip was open on a Saturday morning, there was a heavily wooded area on the outskirts of the village, you looked for the plume of smoke and followed the track, everything was dumped into one pile and every now and again a bulldozer pushed it onto a smouldering bonfire. The commune guy who operated the bulldozer and had the keys for the tip, for a couple of beers and a conversation in the local bar he would lend you the keys so you could drop off when you wanted, there were so many copies of the key that it was ridiculous.
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Post by cernunnos on Jan 18, 2023 9:41:18 GMT 1
Here in 87 everyone can take their garden waste to the dechetterie where it is made into compost , there is no limit in the amount . Same here in 22. I wonder how the older folks get on. At some point loading a trailer and driving to the tip will not be possible for everyone. I struggle a bit pushing the trailer around to hook it up (sloping ground) but still managing to get it done. The "older folks" employ a gardener that does it for them .
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Post by spectrum on Jan 18, 2023 10:09:43 GMT 1
Talk about thread drift TVs to Tips
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Post by cernunnos on Jan 18, 2023 10:17:04 GMT 1
Better a bit of drift than no drift at all.
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Post by Le-Dolly on Jan 18, 2023 10:44:38 GMT 1
Here in 87 everyone can take their garden waste to the dechetterie where it is made into compost , there is no limit in the amount . Same here in 22. I wonder how the older folks get on. At some point loading a trailer and driving to the tip will not be possible for everyone. I struggle a bit pushing the trailer around to hook it up (sloping ground) but still managing to get it done. Same here, take your green waste in, then fill a couple of sacks and leave with the ready made compost.
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Post by Aardvark on Jan 18, 2023 12:59:20 GMT 1
Same here in 22. I wonder how the older folks get on. At some point loading a trailer and driving to the tip will not be possible for everyone. I struggle a bit pushing the trailer around to hook it up (sloping ground) but still managing to get it done. The "older folks" employ a gardener that does it for them . Oh how I envy the rich.
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Post by cernunnos on Jan 18, 2023 13:58:44 GMT 1
The "older folks" employ a gardener that does it for them . Oh how I envy the rich. Weird that , Our French neighbour , who is not rich ,(just has a standard French retirement), pays a local guy to cut her hedge and take away the trimmngs.
Is it rich or just better planning for the future?
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