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Post by pcpa on Mar 13, 2023 18:45:15 GMT 1
The fact that both backdown and climbdown have the word ‘down’ suggests that both mean a retreat from a higher position. To me, anyway. Good point, my English comprehension is poor these days.
Backdown suggested the BBC had said, we were wrong, you can return and continue doing as you were, unless he starts Twottering again in the same vein I would say that a compromise has been reached for the interim and the policy is going to be defined or redefined.
Avoiding loss of face for either (or both) of the parties is usually a big part of these sort of negotiations that are in the public eye.
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Post by annabellespapa on Mar 13, 2023 19:02:22 GMT 1
HMRC are challenging his "freelance" status with his engagement with the BBC, it is a potential £4.5 million case, I like the guy but Lorraine Kelly has successfully used the same "freelance" status, however her point is that she is just Lorraine and actually a character that plays a ditzy Scotts character and not her actual self so can be freelance.
The BBC need to ditch their freelance stars and take on people that will work in the employment system of the BBC, what it proved at the weekend is that sport without pundits can carry on, commentary is necessary but ladsy pundits are not required (at our TV license fee cost) and if the BBC don't take that on board they are finished, which would be a shame. I would like a new breed of presenters in a more up to date style that just give us an introduction to a programme and leave it there, like most people I can work out what is going on and don't need pundits and if necessary take to the internet or newspapers for background , the programmes would be shorter and more enjoyable to me as I currently record MOTD and skip through the punditry,
I am fine, my OH has paid the license fee for years as I refuse to give them my money (directly), it suits me !
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Post by mangetout on Mar 13, 2023 19:42:35 GMT 1
Turn that on its head. MPs receive a salary and a bloody generous pension. So they shouldn't do freelance work. And the boys at the top of the BBC are all paid on a consultancy basis, no doubt, so that'll have to stop. Highly unlikely in my opinion. This is not about tax status, it's about free speech.
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Post by tim17 on Mar 13, 2023 20:05:00 GMT 1
The majority of the top presenters etc are often not solely employed by the main broadcasters. Graham Norton for example presents shows on the BBC but also has a Virgin Radio show and even his own show (the Graham Norton Show) is made by a production company owned by ITV.
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Post by exile on Mar 13, 2023 20:10:38 GMT 1
The guidelines make clear that a sports commentator is able to make political comments. It is actually a specific example within them apparently. The guidelines also say that people in a prominent position have to more cautious than others.
So we have a guideline that allows him and another that suggests he should exercise some caution - if indeed he is prominent. Well footie certainly but beyond that? Barn door left wide open due to poorly drafted guidelines - which are that Guide lines and not hard and fast rules.
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Post by houpla on Mar 13, 2023 20:34:18 GMT 1
" we should expect controversial policy announcements from the tories designed to illicit a response from decent, ordinary people government's 13 years in office is still rising!" Elicit.....https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/elicit. You might like to pass on the tip?
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Post by ajm on Mar 13, 2023 20:48:22 GMT 1
" we should expect controversial policy announcements from the tories designed to illicit a response from decent, ordinary people government's 13 years in office is still rising!" Elicit.....https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/elicit. You might like to pass on the tip? No - whatever they do will probably be illegal.
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Post by omegal on Mar 13, 2023 23:59:04 GMT 1
On Newsnight just now, not one of the 13 BBC board members wanted to came on to speak on Newsnight. The board as a whole appear to have taken the decision on Lineker and it could well be that Davie was given the unpopular choice to get Lineker to step back. In other words Davie was the scapegoat and today he has made up a cock and bull story to try and tell us all that it was being resolved and Lineker will be back. Alan Yentob was very uinformed and got his facts consistently wrong about Linekers "suspension" and ended up being totally wrong. Davie said there are grey areas which he will clean up. The BBC is in a spot of bother and the smell coming from there is quite foul. All this to cover the huge problems that the Tory party are trying so hard to cover up, it won't work though. Bottom line is that Lineker did not apologise, nor has he been told what the so called impartiality rule is. Says enough that Davie has been told what to do and the 13 board members have left him out to dry.Now there is going to be another call for the Chairman Richard Sharp to step down. I bet the BBC now wish they had just let Linekers tweet alone !
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Post by Nifty on Mar 14, 2023 4:37:35 GMT 1
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Post by lindalovely on Mar 14, 2023 11:06:08 GMT 1
read that "in the meantime Mr Lineker has agreed to comply with the impartiality policy", it might have been adhere to, I can't recall word for word, the message was that he would maintain a lower profile until the review. I think the problem is that the impartiality policy doesn't really exist in any clear way for freelance presenters. If you listen to his interview from 2021 the policy only applies to political commentators and presenters. In fact the BBCs own guidelines say that. He has not been particularly quiet on twitter. His post that I quoted above suggests that he still intends to share his views on refugees and today he has shared several posts, particularly a link to Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart's political podcast, which is very anti the current government. Of course GL actually owns the company that broadcasts the podcasts so he can hardly be neutral or impartial in this respect. I dare say elements of the media and the conservatives have attempted to save face by claiming GL has apologised or agreed to tone it down a bit, but I can't see any evidence of that. They will just learn their lesson and ignore his Tweets now, as to challenge him again won't end well.
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Post by Nifty on Mar 14, 2023 11:45:07 GMT 1
At the end of the (Match of The) day I suppose it is a matter of what one wants to believe.
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