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Post by Polarengineer on Mar 23, 2023 18:25:08 GMT 1
Here endeth the lesson ( I hope)
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Post by Nifty on Mar 23, 2023 18:55:46 GMT 1
Hang on a moment.
Obviously shop’s at Harrods. Change that to Obviously shops at Harrods and it makes less sense. AFIK Harrods is only one shop.
Time to consult the Oracle again
apostrophe? "Harrod's" is now known as "Harrods", not as the store originally founded by Mr Harrod, and that's their prerogative. Interestingly, what is now known as "Sainsbury's" was originally known as "J Sainsbury", but they decided to drop the "J" and add a possessive apostrophe and “s”.
Deadicated followers of fashion no less.
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Post by mangetout on Mar 23, 2023 20:35:13 GMT 1
Here endeth the lesson ( I hope) Don't know about you, but I quite like it when someone knows what they're talking about.
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Post by cernunnos on Mar 23, 2023 21:17:08 GMT 1
Not sure what the question is.. but if the 'end' is that everywhere is free to celebrate whatever religion they want in whatever way they want, or celebrate having no religion at all, then that would be fine with me. I was born and raised in London and grew up in an area that had a lot of Jewish people. Their religious festivals were celebrated publicly and it never seemed to offend anyone. Later the area had a big Hindu population and Diwali was a pretty loud street festival going on for days. I worked in Tower Hamlets and Ramadan festivities took place there. Many people from the East London Mosque did outreach work in the local community. So I don't think this is reporting anything new is it? London had always been a multi faith, multi cultural and multi ethnic community, for all of my life time anyway. Maybe 'where next' will be the separation of church and state in the UK, as in France . That would be a good thing in my view. I agree with that , the only problem being that if Islam becomes the major religion then usually that freedom disappears , as seen in countries outside of Europe. London maybe " multi cultural" for a while but this is the first time that Ramadan has been in lights in Piccadilly Circus.
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Post by Polarengineer on Mar 23, 2023 23:28:46 GMT 1
My comment was to try to bring the thread back to the needle. I too am amazed how so much info is available on this site, but one must always carefully judge the content for accuracy and bear in mind my footnote.
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Post by ForumUser2 on Mar 23, 2023 23:37:04 GMT 1
My comment was to try to bring the thread back to the needle.. . Would it not have been more pertinent, then, to have made an on-topic post?
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Post by Polarengineer on Mar 23, 2023 23:40:42 GMT 1
Huh?
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Post by lindalovely on Mar 24, 2023 15:47:55 GMT 1
I agree with that , the only problem being that if Islam becomes the major religion then usually that freedom disappears , as seen in countries outside of Europe. London maybe " multi cultural" for a while but this is the first time that Ramadan has been in lights in Piccadilly Circus. In terms of freedom disappearing the bigger threat from my perspective is from the right wing religious cults in the US. I really would hate to be a young woman in some of those states these days. And if you want an extremist on home soil look no further than Jacob Rees Mogg, who has said that abortion should be banned in all circumstances, and women who have an abortion after being raped are committing a “second wrong”. You don't have to go looking to other faiths to find examples of intolerance and bigotry, as there are plenty of them closeted within the so called Christian faiths. Remind me what scandal involving men of the cloth and young boys was covered up for years by the church leaders? What do you think the significance or problem is with Ramadan lights in Piccadilly? They have been celebrating the Chinese new year for years as that part of London has one of the biggest Chinese populations in the UK.. or at least it did have
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Post by Aardvark on Mar 24, 2023 16:17:13 GMT 1
The world would be a lot better off without religion and the conflict it breeds and supports.
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Post by Nifty on Mar 24, 2023 16:21:03 GMT 1
And it is odd about how some go on about the Arabs and the repression of women. I found this when I was looking for something to exemplify the hip Men no nite dress sense www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna30027484
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Post by Nifty on Mar 24, 2023 16:41:38 GMT 1
The world would be a lot better off without religion and the conflict it breeds and supports. Realistically, I fail to see how. Can anybody give any theoretical examples as to how this might be?
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Post by jackie on Mar 24, 2023 16:55:35 GMT 1
I agree with that , the only problem being that if Islam becomes the major religion then usually that freedom disappears , as seen in countries outside of Europe. London maybe " multi cultural" for a while but this is the first time that Ramadan has been in lights in Piccadilly Circus. In terms of freedom disappearing the bigger threat from my perspective is from the right wing religious cults in the US. I really would hate to be a young woman in some of those states these days. And if you want an extremist on home soil look no further than Jacob Rees Mogg, who has said that abortion should be banned in all circumstances, and women who have an abortion after being raped are committing a “second wrong”. You don't have to go looking to other faiths to find examples of intolerance and bigotry, as there are plenty of them closeted within the so called Christian faiths. Remind me what scandal involving men of the cloth and young boys was covered up for years by the church leaders? What do you think the significance or problem is with Ramadan lights in Piccadilly? They have been celebrating the Chinese new year for years as that part of London has one of the biggest Chinese populations in the UK.. or at least it did have Totally agree. Women in the Western world have more to fear from white, right wing ‘Christian’ fundamentalists than Islam
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Post by cernunnos on Mar 24, 2023 18:49:44 GMT 1
I agree with that , the only problem being that if Islam becomes the major religion then usually that freedom disappears , as seen in countries outside of Europe. London maybe " multi cultural" for a while but this is the first time that Ramadan has been in lights in Piccadilly Circus. In terms of freedom disappearing the bigger threat from my perspective is from the right wing religious cults in the US. I really would hate to be a young woman in some of those states these days. And if you want an extremist on home soil look no further than Jacob Rees Mogg, who has said that abortion should be banned in all circumstances, and women who have an abortion after being raped are committing a “second wrong”. You don't have to go looking to other faiths to find examples of intolerance and bigotry, as there are plenty of them closeted within the so called Christian faiths. Remind me what scandal involving men of the cloth and young boys was covered up for years by the church leaders? What do you think the significance or problem is with Ramadan lights in Piccadilly? They have been celebrating the Chinese new year for years as that part of London has one of the biggest Chinese populations in the UK.. or at least it did have Surely the right wing christians in the US are not a threat to the women in the UK ? Also you have changed the discussion into a threat against women . If Islam becomes a major religion in the UK ( which is what I was posting about) then there is a high possibility that the country will move in a different direction , maybe even for the better?
The catholic religion ( or business) has had it's high in Europe and has now moved to less educated populations, a lot in Africa. The significance of celebrating Ramadan in Piccadilly ,is as the name of the thread applies . It's coming home ! Ol' moggy has already started his move out of politics ,he plays to his audience. As far as the Chinese are concerned, they bend with the wind and keep quiet while making piles of cash, not really being interested in God, so not a threat as such.
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Post by jackie on Mar 24, 2023 22:08:57 GMT 1
In terms of freedom disappearing the bigger threat from my perspective is from the right wing religious cults in the US. I really would hate to be a young woman in some of those states these days. And if you want an extremist on home soil look no further than Jacob Rees Mogg, who has said that abortion should be banned in all circumstances, and women who have an abortion after being raped are committing a “second wrong”. You don't have to go looking to other faiths to find examples of intolerance and bigotry, as there are plenty of them closeted within the so called Christian faiths. Remind me what scandal involving men of the cloth and young boys was covered up for years by the church leaders? What do you think the significance or problem is with Ramadan lights in Piccadilly? They have been celebrating the Chinese new year for years as that part of London has one of the biggest Chinese populations in the UK.. or at least it did have Surely the right wing christians in the US are not a threat to the women in the UK ? Also you have changed the discussion into a threat against women . If Islam becomes a major religion in the UK ( which is what I was posting about) then there is a high possibility that the country will move in a different direction , maybe even for the better?
The catholic religion ( or business) has had it's high in Europe and has now moved to less educated populations, a lot in Africa. The significance of celebrating Ramadan in Piccadilly ,is as the name of the thread applies . It's coming home ! Ol' moggy has already started his move out of politics ,he plays to his audience. As far as the Chinese are concerned, they bend with the wind and keep quiet while making piles of cash, not really being interested in God, so not a threat as such.
I’m confused here, you seem to be talking about the Islamification of the UK (which you think is likely based on some lights in London) and the resulting curtailing of freedom. Usually the only freedoms curtailed in Islamic fundamentalism are women’s not mens so talking about them is hardly changing the discussion.
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Post by Nifty on Mar 25, 2023 6:21:07 GMT 1
‘ Totally agree. Women in the Western world have more to fear from white, right wing ‘Christian’ fundamentalists than Islam‘
Oh yes you have… I mean Oh no you haven’t…I mean what about this
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