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Apr 8, 2023 13:15:34 GMT 1
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Post by houpla on Apr 8, 2023 13:15:34 GMT 1
You'd be amazed how many people would have done but feel that they wouldn't pass muster on the language test, or simply can't be arsed to jump through the hoops required. No doubt these are the same people that bang on about the loss of voting in the UK because they've been here more than 15 years! Quite probably :-)
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Post by houpla on Apr 8, 2023 13:26:27 GMT 1
Hmmm...voting by post from abroad is fraught with big question marks. Such as 'do I need to add a stamp anyway, because GovUK didn't frank with the correct postage?' or...Will a postal vote obviously originating in another country be processed in due time (or even at all)?'. I wouldn't trust that shower to organise the proverbial in a brewery. Add in the decreased efficiency of La Poste and perhaps a pigeon would be a better bet?
Or, Le Coq Sportiv?
Voting returns, whether postal or ballot box, are handled by Local Authorities who organise it extrememely well. Having done house to house visits to confirm electoral roll entries, delivered/collected ballot boxes and sorted ballot papers on election nights p*ss ups in breweries bear no resemblance to the organisation involved. I can't speak for La Poste but Royal Mail still remains a reliable method of communication for letters.
Isn't there proxy voting for those resident abroad?
I'd better shut up :-) Getting thoroughly muddled between local, national, referenda etc ...But you're absolutely right...the work put in on a local level is very good. My interest was reawakened because I understand that the 15 year rule is no more, but haven't heard whether this will be applicable to these elections? I strongly suspect that it's illegal anyway to vote in more than one country :-) so best stick with my French vote!
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Post by exile on Apr 8, 2023 17:20:20 GMT 1
You'd be amazed how many people would have done but feel that they wouldn't pass muster on the language test, or simply can't be arsed to jump through the hoops required. No doubt these are the same people that bang on about the loss of voting in the UK because they've been here more than 15 years! Too bl**dy true I bang on about the loss of voting rights, AFAIK the UK is the only civilised (in the loosest interpretation) country that removes the voting rights of ex-pats. It has been recognised even by the Tories as a problem and a change in the law has been on the cards with the last 5 (five) prime ministers - so at least 3 months!!
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Post by tim17 on Apr 8, 2023 18:08:09 GMT 1
No doubt these are the same people that bang on about the loss of voting in the UK because they've been here more than 15 years! Too bl**dy true I bang on about the loss of voting rights, AFAIK the UK is the only civilised (in the loosest interpretation) country that removes the voting rights of ex-pats. It has been recognised even by the Tories as a problem and a change in the law has been on the cards with the last 5 (five) prime ministers - so at least 3 months!! I just don't get it, you left the country years ago but still demand a say in who runs it whilst at the same time are happy having no say in who runs where you now live. What am I missing?
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Post by pcpa on Apr 8, 2023 18:22:51 GMT 1
That he considers himself an ex-pat and not an immigrant citizen of France perhaps?
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Post by exile on Apr 8, 2023 19:39:43 GMT 1
No actually he doesn't pcpa and would from choice wish to vote in France. So please stop double guessing what my wishes and desires would be or not be. However I consider my language skills well below what is required to achieve French nationality and even now have to consider French as my third language. With age it is not getting any easier. AS to why I should wish to continue to hold a voting right in the UK: 1. I am British. That I live in France does not divorce me from the UK and UK activities. 2. It should be a right - as it is in other countries. France even has a member of parliament to represent those who live outside of the country. 3. I still have family and friends in the UK and indeed investments. 4. At a very personal level, 50% or so of my income is GBP based and therefore the actions or inactions of a UK government can impact - perhaps profoundly impact - Thanks Liz to name but one - my income. The silly argument comes up time and time again and the response remains the same. Let those "clean ones" with French nationality stand up and be counted. tim17? pcpa?
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Post by pcpa on Apr 8, 2023 20:34:13 GMT 1
No actually he doesn't pcpa and would from choice wish to vote in France. So please stop double guessing what my wishes and desires would be or not be. My apologies, the choice of words was not mine.
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Post by houpla on Apr 8, 2023 21:20:49 GMT 1
However I consider my language skills well below what is required to achieve French nationality and even now have to consider French as my third language. With age it is not getting any easier. If you were interested in going for nationality, exile, don't be put off by the language business. As a precursor to the actual exam, you do an assessment. The result of that might be a pleasant surprise Judging by the standard of French of several acquaintances who have succeeded with nationality applications, a fair bit of leeway is given. The actual oral and comprehension parts go towards the result...it's not based solely on them. Apologies in advance if it isn't something you really want to do
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