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Post by mysty on Mar 13, 2024 1:19:21 GMT 1
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Post by suein56 on Mar 13, 2024 9:23:30 GMT 1
I find it interesting the helpful effect these newspaper people can have in frustrating situations like these.
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Post by cernunnos on Mar 13, 2024 10:06:22 GMT 1
Nothing like a bit of bad publicity to " grease the wheels "!
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Post by Aardvark on Mar 13, 2024 11:29:24 GMT 1
And the EV groupies still insist EVs are a great idea and a big step forward. They selectively ignore the cost and availability of repairs, the fire risk during charging, the fire risk during an accident, higher insurance premiums, due to the previous issues, limited access to chargers while on a longer journey only to find they are not working or have a queue waiting for access, and the prospect of the grid likely to be unable to supply enough power as EVs become more numerous.
The situation is the result of manufacturers being bullied by legislation into the new technology far too quickly, before the problems were fully recognised and before the problem of grid capacity has been resolved. But Hey, the Eco nerds are delighted.
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Post by cernunnos on Mar 13, 2024 12:09:17 GMT 1
And the EV groupies still insist EVs are a great idea and a big step forward. They selectively ignore the cost and availability of repairs, the fire risk during charging, the fire risk during an accident, higher insurance premiums, due to the previous issues, limited access to chargers while on a longer journey only to find they are not working or have a queue waiting for access, and the prospect of the grid likely to be unable to supply enough power as EVs become more numerous. The situation is the result of manufacturers being bullied by legislation into the new technology far too quickly, before the problems were fully recognised and before the problem of grid capacity has been resolved. But Hey, the Eco nerds are delighted.Me being one of they , are not delighted at all . It would be better if we went back to horse and cart!
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Post by suein56 on Mar 13, 2024 12:14:13 GMT 1
The situation is the result of manufacturers being bullied by legislation into the new technology far too quickly, before the problems were fully recognised and before the problem of grid capacity has been resolved. Can only agree .. let's hope the (next) Governments anywhere realise the gravity of the problems that wholly electric vehicles can bring and see the need for resolution before wholesale abandonment of petrol/diesel vehicles.
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Post by mysty on Mar 13, 2024 12:46:08 GMT 1
Electric cars are just another way of getting people to spend money and bring in more money for the rich to get richer. Apparently the atmosphere was destroyed with the nucular testing back in the 50s. Some car companies are already bringing back petrol models. On saying that I would love to have a test drive in that new electric porsche that is meant to be the fastest ever road car to 100, not that practical for an evryday run about though.
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Post by Aardvark on Mar 13, 2024 18:07:11 GMT 1
Admittedly some of the new electric cars beat the petrol ones by quite a margin in a standing start drag race but I fear that particular advantage is of little use off the drag strip. And if someone uses the heavy foot on a daily basis the "claimed" range will be reduced drastically. By all means, have a go to see what a really quick 0 to 100 acceleration feels like. But take it from me, it soon gets boring. If you haven't already seen the Dodge Hellcat in action, see this video...
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Post by mysty on Mar 13, 2024 22:17:09 GMT 1
Admittedly some of the new electric cars beat the petrol ones by quite a margin in a standing start drag race but I fear that particular advantage is of little use off the drag strip. And if someone uses the heavy foot on a daily basis the "claimed" range will be reduced drastically. By all means, have a go to see what a really quick 0 to 100 acceleration feels like. But take it from me, it soon gets boring. If you haven't already seen the Dodge Hellcat in action, see this video...The sound of a V6 or V8 would trump the EV for me.
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Post by cernunnos on Mar 14, 2024 9:48:35 GMT 1
Depends what you love in life I suppose. Nothing worse than the sound of a motor car, except a jet engine.
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Post by Aardvark on Mar 14, 2024 10:55:29 GMT 1
Back in the 70s I was at Santa Pod Raceway and saw a jet-engined dragster brought over from Sweden for a couple of demo runs. It used a 327 Chevy V8 as a starter motor and as it gained revs on the starting line the people in the stands directly behind legged it as the roof started wobbling threatening to blow away. It wasn't particularly quick over the quarter mile and the noise was like a Hoover on steroids.
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Post by curtis on Mar 14, 2024 12:36:42 GMT 1
I recall the first appearance in the uk of dragsters and funny cars from the US. It was at Blackbushe Airfield. Believe Don Garlits was there. Hope my memory was correct; We were a long way from the action.
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Post by robertarthur on Mar 14, 2024 13:10:53 GMT 1
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Post by ForumUser2 on Mar 14, 2024 13:56:10 GMT 1
Admittedly some of the new electric cars beat the petrol ones by quite a margin in a standing start drag race but I fear that particular advantage is of little use off the drag strip. And if someone uses the heavy foot on a daily basis the "claimed" range will be reduced drastically. By all means, have a go to see what a really quick 0 to 100 acceleration feels like. But take it from me, it soon gets boring. If you haven't already seen the Dodge Hellcat in action, see this video...The sound of a V6 or V8 would trump the EV for me. . The thing about pure electric is you get 100% of the torque all of the time. The acceleration is therefore instantaneous at any speed. When we were looking to buy a Cayenne (which was disappointingly poor value for money in my opinion) I was allowed a brief drive of the all-electric Taycan. It is shatteringly, aggressively fast accelerating whether from rest or at motorway speeds. That acceleration at higher speeds is truly astonishing - even a 911 carrera 4S feels weak in comparison. The sound is grim, though.
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Post by Aardvark on Mar 14, 2024 16:12:32 GMT 1
I can only imagine. I have experienced something similar. Doing a steady 65mph, floor it and instantly burning rubber fighting to keep it straight. Fun once in a while, but potentially a "brown trouser" event.
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