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Post by woolybanana on Aug 17, 2021 21:37:08 GMT 1
Mainly wanted by the Muslim community but Hindus concurred.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 7:26:28 GMT 1
Mountbatten unfortunately had quite a large say. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_to_the_partition_of_India: A quick googles gives "The actual division of British India between the two new dominions was accomplished according to what has come to be known as the "3 June Plan" or "Mountbatten Plan". It was announced at a press conference by Mountbatten on 3 June 1947, when the date of independence - 15 August 1947 - was also announced "
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Post by woolybanana on Aug 18, 2021 12:16:25 GMT 1
Jinnah insisted and Jinnah got what he wanted.
Well, not quite, he wanted more.
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Post by woolybanana on Aug 18, 2021 12:20:53 GMT 1
The Amritsar Massacre was the result of a burnt out, tired, rather stupid but very brave Army officer(see his record) thinking the only way of holding back a badmash inspired mob at a time of heightened political tension was by firing on them. Hardly the fault of Empire. The best had died, he was what was left over, sadly.
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Post by annabellespapa on Aug 18, 2021 12:22:32 GMT 1
The Russians tried to sort out Afghanistan and gave up before the US and UK tried and failed.
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Post by JohnnyD on Aug 18, 2021 12:36:04 GMT 1
The Amritsar Massacre was the result of a burnt out, tired, rather stupid but very brave Army officer(see his record) thinking the only way of holding back a badmash inspired mob at a time of heightened political tension was by firing on them. Hardly the fault of Empire. The best had died, he was what was left over, sadly. There's nothing brave about firing on a group of trapped, unarmed men, women and children, killing 1000 of them and injuring over 1200 in my books..........
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Post by woolybanana on Aug 18, 2021 12:46:07 GMT 1
You failed to see to what I was referring in your urge to post. He record as a fighting soldier was superb. Which goes towards proving that using front line soldiers to curb civil unrest specially where it is politically motivated and designed to provoke is probably a mistake. eg Londonderry. See how the Indian police use long batons to curb demonstrators. But that was another age.
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Post by JohnnyD on Aug 18, 2021 13:58:40 GMT 1
You failed to see to what I was referring in your urge to post. He record as a fighting soldier was superb. Which goes towards proving that using front line soldiers to curb civil unrest specially where it is politically motivated and designed to provoke is probably a mistake. eg Londonderry. See how the Indian police use long batons to curb demonstrators. But that was another age. No I didn't fail to see, and I was in no hurry to post, I was involved in the making of a programme about the massacre years ago, so know about Dyer..........
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Post by woolybanana on Aug 18, 2021 14:08:30 GMT 1
Good, so a balanced view then?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 14:21:59 GMT 1
It was the Mountbatten plan. He decided to divide and "protect" Western interests.
Jinnah, who did not represent the majority of Indian Muslims, was the person he turned to.
I really do find it bizarre that british colonialism can be defended with such fervor.
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Post by beejay on Aug 18, 2021 14:47:57 GMT 1
The Russians tried to sort out Afghanistan and gave up before the US and UK tried and failed. But that was after the first two British/Afghan wars.
How far back are we going? Afghanistan, in it's various forms, has been involved in wars with many countries for centuries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2021 15:01:53 GMT 1
The Amritsar Massacre was the result of a burnt out, tired, rather stupid but very brave Army officer(see his record) thinking the only way of holding back a badmash inspired mob at a time of heightened political tension was by firing on them. Hardly the fault of Empire. Hardly the fault of Empire? What are you smoking? Where would your brave soldiers have come from were it not for the annexation of India to the Empire?
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Post by woolybanana on Aug 18, 2021 16:02:37 GMT 1
India did not exist when the British, French and Portuguese started trading there.
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Post by FFS on Aug 18, 2021 17:00:17 GMT 1
India did not exist when the British, French and Portuguese started trading there. As an independent nation, no, however that's like saying Africa didn't exist when the British, French, and Portuguese started buying slaves there: it doesn't excuse what was done in the past.
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Post by tim17 on Aug 18, 2021 17:56:50 GMT 1
IMO history should be used as a teaching tool rather than a stick to beat yourself with. In the 21st century slavery and colonialism is rightly seen as abhorrent so I get why there are calls to remove statues etc which honour slave traders, however at some point a line in the sand does have to be drawn otherwise we'll never move on from the past.
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