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Post by FFS on Sept 25, 2021 16:06:43 GMT 1
To Portsmouth from where? Surely a full tank of diesel on arrival at any English port would be enough to take you to anywhere in England, with some to spare? Okay, forget a consumption of 5l/100km.  |
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Post by FFS on Sept 25, 2021 16:09:09 GMT 1
The wrong quote, JohnnyD? I can fix it if you like. |
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Post by pcpa on Sept 25, 2021 16:23:20 GMT 1
No longer than it takes for people to stop panic buying which caused it in the first place, then the filling stations will be deserted for weeks. I'm not so sure that BP announced anything rather than responded to a reporters enquiry, damned if they do, damned if they don't. I went to refill my tank (as opposed to fill up) for the return journey, towing the loaded removal trailer the fuel consumption is doubled at 30mpg, I had towed it over and driven since September 1st on the fill up I did locally in France, it was Tuesday afternoon, I went to the local BP station and the guy was locking off all the diesel pumps, after loading everything I went again that night and by then there was still no diesel or petrol either, I didn't really want to tow the heavy load to Tesco but had no choice.
I'm sure in the following days thanks to social media there would have been lots of reports of shortages but it really only did affect a few BP stations, that has not changed, what has changed is the huge rise in demand in a very short time through media driven panic buying.
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Post by exile on Sept 25, 2021 20:15:36 GMT 1
There is no shortage of fuel just a shortage of drivers to deliver. It started when BP announced that four filling stations in Norfolk out of 200+ nationwide had run out of fuel. It would have been better if they had said nothing.
BP and Shell have their own contracted delivery fleets as do the main supermarkets so any shortage caused by people panic buying will be resolved by Tuesday when their tanks are full.
Like Annabellspapa (sp?) I think you are being optimistic. Over 32m vehicles registered in the UK. If on average they were roughly half full then we are talking about over 1m cubic metres of fuel extra potentially being put into tanks. As things progress and shortages become worse, more and more people will be sucked into the "I must fill the tank" syndrome. Then there will be jerry can fillers (next run will be on jerry cans I suggest). So let's say at its peak we have an extra half million cubic metres fuel held in peoples tanks and cans and not on the forecourts. Capacity of a big tanker is around 50 cubic metres so that is 10,000 deliveries required to restore the forecourt stocks and in the meantime people will still be driving around as normal - or indeed going a bit further in order to keep that tank as close to full as possible. So this 10k deliveries is on top of the normal level - which was at the limit as seen by the shortages at a few BP and Esso stations. The problem is that people will not return to normal buying patterns until they have confidence that the supplies are restored and that they can fill up as and when needed. As that does happen then there will be a reduction in the need for deliveries. However I think that may be weeks away not days. |
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Post by beejay on Sept 26, 2021 17:35:54 GMT 1
It might take a bit longer than Tuesday but Beejay is correct, on driving around Worcestershire people were queuing on dual carriageways to get fuel. On the local radio a lady who owns a petrol station said that she took more money from 9am - 2pm than she would take in a week, everybody was filling to the brim instead of their usual £15-£20 top up, she was now only restricting the fuel to her locals as she is not expecting another delivery until Monday. Luckily I have a nearly full tank, should see me all the way from Worcestershire via Caen and on to Brittany tomorrow night 
Things are already improving. Today, in town I passed a Tesco, and three BPs with cars filling up and two other indies that were shut. My granddaughter and partner unaware of the situation drove to their village filling station this morning and filled their cars and the works van - no queue and plenty of fuel.
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