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Post by FFS on Oct 22, 2021 17:17:00 GMT 1
After some doubts about the allowance to be given to certain people to help them cope with the recent rises in fuel prices, the French Prime Minister announced on TF1 last night that there will be "a one-off allowance of €100 paid to French people who earn less than €2,000 net per month... [intended for] employees, the self-employed, the unemployed actively seeking work, farmers and pensioners, [as well as] students with scholarships who are fiscally independent." As 'French people' are specifically mentioned, I'm not at all sure if non-French pensioners will benefit.
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Post by woolybanana on Oct 22, 2021 17:40:19 GMT 1
I imagine it will be allocated according to your fiscal number otherwise how will they know?
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Post by dilly on Oct 22, 2021 17:41:17 GMT 1
Yes, it looks doubtful for non-French residents, who don't work / haven't worked in France. The money will be paid out by employers and the different organisations which pay pensions, unemployment benefits, etc. (who will be reimbursed by the government). I don't see how this can be done for those receiving their pension from outside France... ?
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Post by FFS on Oct 22, 2021 17:47:55 GMT 1
I think you may well be right, dilly, which will be disappointing for many. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2021 18:11:22 GMT 1
They would have been better dropping the TVA on fuel. 100 euros will make no difference.
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Post by dilly on Oct 22, 2021 18:17:26 GMT 1
They would have been better dropping the TVA on fuel. 100 euros will make no difference. That's what my husband says (and he's probably one of the lucky ones who might get the 100 € !) |
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Post by pcpa on Oct 22, 2021 19:15:58 GMT 1
They would have been better dropping the TVA on fuel. 100 euros will make no difference. It may make no difference to you but as someone with a Revenu fiscale de référence of €2741 and which will be much less than that for this year, a cheque for €100 in December will be very gratefully recieved.
Regarding "non-French residents" (Dilly) the elegibility criteria is not discriminatory of birth nationality.
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Post by elsie on Oct 22, 2021 19:53:04 GMT 1
They would have been better dropping the TVA on fuel. 100 euros will make no difference. They payment calculation is based on individual incomes not household incomes. The government has estimated 38 million (56% of the total population, which incl. children) will receive the payment. That has been estimated as equating to 73% of the adult population earning less that 2000€/month. Reducing VAT or other taxes would have had an even greater impact on the tax receipts/government income. Someone has to pay for such changes at some point and the government accounts are already under great strain with a significant deficit - not helped by all the other electioneering giveaways already promised (with more to come?). The income tax burden is already heavily weighted towards the minority of individual tax payers and they don't really have a high income. They cannot keep increasing the tax burden on a minority. They need to start reducing outgoings significantly rather than just promising to do so (and failing). This allowance possibly looks acceptable; it costs the government very little as a lot of it will come back in VAT and other taxes once spent. The total taxes on petrol are 61% and the government will continue to collect those (and those revenues will increase with the higher cost of fuel if the same amount is sold). |
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Post by FFS on Oct 22, 2021 20:05:12 GMT 1
They would have been better dropping the TVA on fuel. 100 euros will make no difference. It may make no difference to you but as someone with a Revenu fiscale de référence of €2741 and which will be much less than that for this year, a cheque for €100 in December will be very gratefully recieved.
Regarding "non-French residents" (Dilly) the elegibility criteria is not discriminatory of birth nationality.
Nothing to do with nationality, but everything to do with who pays you money. A French organisation paying out 100€ will have 100€ less to pay in patronal charges to the government, so the balance is met. On the other hand, a British pension provider pays nothing to the French government, so they will not be compensated for paying 100€ extra some time next year to a pensioner living in France; ergo, they won't do it.
If you're not French but you work in France or have a French pension, you'll (probably) get the 100€; otherwise, I don't think you will.
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Post by dilly on Oct 22, 2021 20:29:32 GMT 1
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Regarding "non-French residents" (Dilly) the elegibility criteria is not discriminatory of birth nationality.
I did qualify that by adding "who don't work / haven't worked" in France  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2021 6:27:16 GMT 1
They would have been better dropping the TVA on fuel. 100 euros will make no difference. It may make no difference to you but as someone with a Revenu fiscale de référence of €2741 and which will be much less than that for this year, a cheque for €100 in December will be very gratefully recieved.
Regarding "non-French residents" (Dilly) the elegibility criteria is not discriminatory of birth nationality.
How is your income that low? You got financial help from the government since the start of the epidemic. The rental industry is booming in France. You have tenants in your property or did have Hoo flung dung the Chinese boy who was charging his bike battery. You have 100s of thousands in UK property. We waste about 300 euros a week on fuel for work so the 100 which we are not entitled to would make no difference. Most of the cost of fuel is tax. If your reading this Macron cut the tax or I will deactivate myself. |
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Post by lapourtaider on Oct 23, 2021 7:13:44 GMT 1
That'll be a welcome bonus in my wife's pay packet at the end of the year👍
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Post by hal on Oct 23, 2021 10:09:20 GMT 1
I’d certainly welcome 100€! It would take me another 490kms for free with money for a coffee and pain au raisin as a bonus!
But it will not happen.
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Post by elsie on Oct 23, 2021 11:03:11 GMT 1
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Post by FFS on Oct 23, 2021 11:08:19 GMT 1
As an intérimaire myself, it will be interesting to see where it comes from, Pôle Emploi, with whom I sign on every month in order to keep my rights to benefit open, or my agency.
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