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Post by captainmorgan on Oct 30, 2021 10:22:30 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 10:35:41 GMT 1
I had no idea the world was in such a precarious position. We just bought a new diesel fuel guzzler this morning. Our last ever diesel car. Levelling down, not sure I'm ready for that yet.
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Post by captainmorgan on Oct 30, 2021 10:41:13 GMT 1
I had no idea the world was in such a precarious position. We just bought a new diesel fuel guzzler this morning. Our last ever diesel car. Levelling down, not sure I'm ready for that yet. I think you just summarised the article.
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Post by Nifty on Oct 30, 2021 10:46:35 GMT 1
I had no idea the world was in such a precarious position. We just bought a new diesel fuel guzzler this morning. Our last ever diesel car. Levelling down, not sure I'm ready for that yet. What about bears sitting in the woods? G M obviously does not know what he is talking about. ‘ these are the signals that, in climatic morse code, spell “mayday”. ‘ it is the end of October.
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Post by woolybanana on Oct 30, 2021 10:48:15 GMT 1
Capitalism has failed the world in one significant way and that is in creating conditions for the world population to get far too large. The planet can only sustain about half what there is presently. Anyway, if you want democracy then you have to accept some form of capitalism as all other systems are totalitarian.
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Post by FFS on Oct 30, 2021 11:01:18 GMT 1
Just to give some context, rather than a simple link.
The headline: "Capitalism is killing the planet – it’s time to stop buying into our own destruction"
The sub-heading: "Instead of focusing on ‘micro consumerist bollocks’ like ditching our plastic coffee cups, we must challenge the pursuit of wealth and level down, not up"
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Post by Nifty on Oct 30, 2021 12:26:25 GMT 1
The paradox is deafening.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 12:30:04 GMT 1
I miss plastic straws at Mcdoos a milkshake and paper staws do not last.
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Post by captainmorgan on Oct 30, 2021 12:33:29 GMT 1
I miss plastic straws at Mcdoos a milkshake and paper staws do not last. Yes, sucking that chicken fat through a paper straw is apparently a challenge.
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Post by captainmorgan on Oct 30, 2021 12:37:57 GMT 1
Capitalism has failed the world in one significant way and that is in creating conditions for the world population to get far too large. The planet can only sustain about half what there is presently. Anyway, if you want democracy then you have to accept some form of capitalism as all other systems are totalitarian. If, capitalism = democracy , is killing the planet, does it matter?
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Post by suein56 on Oct 30, 2021 12:41:59 GMT 1
If, capitalism = democracy , is killing the planet, does it matter? Our children and grandchildren, who have to try and sort out the mess our generation and previous generations have created, might believe the destruction of the planet matters.
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Post by captainmorgan on Oct 30, 2021 15:46:45 GMT 1
If, capitalism = democracy , is killing the planet, does it matter? Our children and grandchildren, who have to try and sort out the mess our generation and previous generations have created, might believe the destruction of the planet matters. I believe that absolutely. My "does it matter" comment was a reference to alternatives to so called democracy.
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Post by woolybanana on Oct 30, 2021 15:59:38 GMT 1
Looking at the more planet destructive regimes of the moment, China, Russia, Brazil, US(🤬), North Korea, they can hardly be called democratic. Democracy, created and maintained by capitalism is, ironically the thing which keeps it from going to extremes, surely?
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Post by Aardvark on Oct 30, 2021 17:33:10 GMT 1
In my typically simplistic view, it is the capitalist mantra of growth growth growth that is the root problem. A tidy profit at the end of the year is never enough. They want even more the next year, etc. Anything goes in order to keep the profit soaring. Killing off jobs at home to make more profit using cheaper labour abroad, yippee! Keep pushing "new improved" items built to last just up to the end of the waranty period. Hey, more profit. Ever increasing access to credit, educate the children to think being in debt your entire life is the "normal" way to live.
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Post by houpla on Oct 30, 2021 20:58:06 GMT 1
That article confirms what I firmly believe. The 'little' people are being manipulated to feel guilty and responsible with the sole aim of deflecting the truth (oh and a handy side-effect is the taxation angle) which is that human, corporate greed is what's destroying the planet. A combination of that and natural cyclical events, perhaps speeded up by the human rapacity. It's a crying shame for the other species that inhabit the globe.
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