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Post by pcpa on Dec 5, 2021 16:21:02 GMT 1
Is the legislation only for behaviour aimed at women alone?
Is a wolf whistle threatening? That would depend on the recipient, unfortunately it is often the case that it is taken as a compliment from one person but unwanted attention (soon to be threatening behaviour) from another.
I guess it's been seen as non woke for parents to teach their children "sticks and stones............." for some time, possibly generations. By that I don't mean encouraging them to insult or harass others but to manage their reactions when on the recieving end.
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Post by FFS on Dec 5, 2021 17:30:54 GMT 1
The quote from The Guardian - "Making lewd comments, pressing against someone in a sexual way on public transport, cornering someone, catcalling and persistent sexual propositioning could all be covered by the changes to the law if they are brought in." - uses that get out of jail free word 'could': all depends on the circumstances.
What is a lewd comment, what is catcalling, and how many witnesses to it are needed for a charge under the proposed legislation to be effective? And when does a complimentary remark cross the line to become an objectifying comment? Perhaps there's something in this Shariah law demanding that all women are veiled and covered from head to toe.
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Post by Seaboots on Dec 5, 2021 17:34:21 GMT 1
The quote from The Guardian - "Making lewd comments, pressing against someone in a sexual way on public transport, cornering someone, catcalling and persistent sexual propositioning could all be covered by the changes to the law if they are brought in." - uses that get out of jail free word 'could': all depends on the circumstances.
What is a lewd comment, what is catcalling, and how many witnesses to it are needed for a charge under the proposed legislation to be effective? And when does a complimentary remark cross the line to become an objectifying comment? Perhaps there's something in this Shariah law demanding that all women are veiled and covered from head to toe.
Well that would solve a lot of the ambiguity. What maybe offensive too one lady may well be seen as a complement to another.
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Post by ForumUser2 on Dec 5, 2021 18:25:39 GMT 1
We men are very good at telling the little ladies what they should and shouldn't find offensive, aren't we?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2021 19:13:41 GMT 1
Offence is how the person receiving sees it , not the intention of the person ‘giving ‘
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Post by ibis on Dec 5, 2021 19:56:22 GMT 1
We should just stop public whistling, saying "wow, look at that", do you see them , etc... to appease these women who are probably bringing this up as it is never directed at them.
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Post by ForumUser2 on Dec 5, 2021 20:00:37 GMT 1
We should just stop public whistling, saying "wow, look at that", do you see them , etc... to appease these women who are probably bringing this up as it is never directed at them. I guess it's exactly this sort of attitude that leads to the need to legislate.
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Post by ibis on Dec 5, 2021 20:46:53 GMT 1
We should just stop public whistling, saying "wow, look at that", do you see them , etc... to appease these women who are probably bringing this up as it is never directed at them. I guess it's exactly this sort of attitude that leads to the need to legislate. Rightly agree with you - Jealousy or feel being "left out"...
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