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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 7:38:29 GMT 1
The decision defies reason given the massive increase in UK cases numbers compared to here, no idea where that leaves some of our holiday home clients who were due to come out when the school holidays start next week. I would suspect that now we are on Amber+ and they will have to self isolate on return there will be a lot of cancellations. The UK Gov seem to make it up as they go. Seems the hotels could not cope if all those returning from France had to pay for accommodation.
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Post by manonthemoon2 on Jul 17, 2021 8:09:03 GMT 1
I think it's because they want UK people to stay in UK and spend money into the UK economy, not France, Spain or wherever  |
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Post by plog on Jul 17, 2021 8:15:22 GMT 1
Thanks Plog and I agree but just maybe the Government are trying to keep people in the UK, for health and economy reasons, we have a friend ( in the travel industry )in our village in the Uk who says that she has multiple family bookings, abroad and in the UK to cover all options, they will drop their UK holiday booking at the drop of a hat and their Med booking also depending on the advice. I think the may be some logic in that but foreign travel doesn’t mean all the cash involved leaves UK, especially if people book with UK based operators, or even UK resident owners of accommodation overseas. In any event if the underlying unspoken intent was to dissuade UK residents from foreign travel this summer HMG should have simply kept the restrictions in place, rather than promise a relaxation and then U turn…I don’t think some politicians involved in this have any idea of what’s involved in both cost and time in, for example, ramping up an airline operation to cater for increasing demand from aspiring travelers and then the frustration that surfaces when said politicians chop the revised operation off at the knees with two or three days notice… In the spring Grant Shapps promised the red/Amber/green list would be operated in a manner that would provide stability both for holidaymakers and for the travel industry….and now we get this……….. |
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Post by exile on Jul 17, 2021 8:32:29 GMT 1
Dominic
I agree that looking at the overall numbers, France would be far more "in the right" by applying quarantine to people coming from the UK, than the other way around. This based on current numbers.
I did want however to show the dangers of relying solely on percentages with the overall picture in France not being as good as your beta graphs would suggest. Total cases are on the up and I fear will go the way of the UK but with a population less prepared through the levels of vaccination. In that respect Macron's measures which are encouraging the reticent to get the jab, has to been seen as good, although many will no doubt claim it is too late.
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Post by rabbit on Jul 17, 2021 8:48:48 GMT 1
as of 1/07/2021 There were more cases of the Beta variant in Sweden and Germany than France. Belgium, Denmark Finland, Austria all have a higher percentage of cases. In reality there are beta variant cases in most European counties. What is more the French figures include the Island of Reunion where it is rampant but is 10000 miles away.Could it be tit for tat after Macron told France to holiday at home or a bargaining chip to solicit France's help to ameliorate some of the chaos caused by Brexit. Johnson playing tough never plays out well
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 10:08:59 GMT 1
Could it be that the powers that be in the UK are worried that the AZ vaccine, which is the main tool in the UK, may not be as effective against the beta variant. Just a thought. www.bbc.com/news/health-55302595 |
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Post by chaletcat on Jul 17, 2021 10:29:58 GMT 1
Just as it was looking positive for me to return to UK if this 3rd offer on chalet goes through at a very much reduced price
Sons and myself fully vaccinated Possible property in Devon with my moggies allowed and I am just about managing the customs rules for relocating this happens
There are many of the members from the old forum will maybe remember since my husbands death I have been trying to return to the UK
It did not help that I had an accident in my san permis and although the damage was only the bumper and front wing it took 11 weeks to be returned mended
I am beginning to think that someone somewhere has it on for me
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Post by landmannnn on Jul 17, 2021 10:30:01 GMT 1
The massive failure to act over India travel means the UK government are concerned not to allow "variants of concern" in the country.
Either..
Once bitten twice shy
Or
Shutting the gate after the horse has bolted
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Post by elsie on Jul 17, 2021 11:10:50 GMT 1
Could it be that the powers that be in the UK are worried that the AZ vaccine, which is the main tool in the UK, may not be as effective against the beta variant. Just a thought. www.bbc.com/news/health-55302595Yes, the problem of the lower efficacy of the AZ vaccine against the beta variant was mentioned on Today on Radio 4 this morning. AZ have started testing a revised vaccine to combat the beta variant. |
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Post by JohnnyD on Jul 17, 2021 11:42:40 GMT 1
Could it be that the powers that be in the UK are worried that the AZ vaccine, which is the main tool in the UK, may not be as effective against the beta variant. Just a thought. www.bbc.com/news/health-55302595Yes, the problem of the lower efficacy of the AZ vaccine against the beta variant was mentioned on Today on Radio 4 this morning. AZ have started testing a revised vaccine to combat the beta variant. That heavily implies booster jabs will be required for AZ patients? |
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Post by elsie on Jul 17, 2021 11:52:57 GMT 1
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Post by ajm on Jul 17, 2021 14:53:50 GMT 1
I would suggest that it is because the percentage of cases of Beta is falling against a (starting to be rapidly) increasing number of cases overall. This means the absolute number of Beta cases is increasing even if the percentage is falling. Edit to explain: Over the time period the percentage of Beta cases has fallen by a half. Over the same period the total number of cases has gone up by 2.5 so the number of beta cases has increased by 1.25. But compared to what is happening elsewhere that’s a drop in the ocean. I’ve read since it’s because of the high Beta variant numbers in Reunion! That’s using the same logic that was used to remove the OAP winter heating allowance. |
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