JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Jan 30, 2022 17:05:05 GMT 1
Bought one of these for France....
It accepts many formats of plugs etc, but in the case of EU plugs how is the earth connection made? I cant see how it can, or am I being dense, the blurb says......it has passed CE, FCC, UKCA and RoHS certifications.
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Post by robertarthur on Jan 30, 2022 17:37:12 GMT 1
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JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Jan 30, 2022 17:39:43 GMT 1
@ JohnnyD, next time buy a bloc multiprise in France. They've got a Euro type plug to go into a French socket and do also accept the dual standard Euro power plug: ![https://up.picr.de/42911888xl.jpg]() I cant open that image for some reason Robert......But I also wanted to be able to plug UK plugs into it? |
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Post by robertarthur on Jan 30, 2022 17:48:34 GMT 1
For some or other reason the insert image operation didn't work, now transformed into a simple link.Also UK plugs: the cheapest solution after this in depth investment is to cut off the UK plug and install a regular Euro plug. |
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Post by pcpa on Jan 30, 2022 17:57:12 GMT 1
Dangerous without an earth connection as you have stated.
Buy some UK 4 way trailing leads and put a French plug on the lead.
Also do the same with some French ones for use in the UK as you will probably start to change the plugs on your most used portable tools.
Leclerc sell the best value French 16a plugs, Ikea are good value for the trailing leads in both countries, Action sell some very good well priced ones also.
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Post by elsie on Jan 30, 2022 19:54:22 GMT 1
I've bought several of these Bremonta French multiblocks. The sockets are at a right angle and the spacing between them is greater so plug-in adapters, phone transformers, etc don't clash with each other. The standard multiblock with angled sockets often means only alternant sockets can be used. Schuko versions are available. |
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Post by pcpa on Jan 30, 2022 23:39:12 GMT 1
That is a very good point Elsie, it's always struck me as silly that they are usually angled and such a close pitch.
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JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Jan 31, 2022 9:24:46 GMT 1
Well the return window was still open at Amazon, so have started the process citing it is dangerous and should not be being sold in my opinion, I cant return it before Feb 1st, as I am in France, nor do I have the original box, lets see what they say......
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Post by landmannnn on Jan 31, 2022 10:33:57 GMT 1
Surely the majority of products you would plug into this will be low power electronics which almost universally do not have an earth connection?
Agree, it would be unwise to use products not double insulated on french round plugs.
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Post by Le-Dolly on Jan 31, 2022 11:00:25 GMT 1
I also noted that the cable supplying this piece of crap was very underrated for it's use. The cable had a quoted size of 1mm² as to the very minimum standard of 1.5mm², and the manufacturers call that "upgraded". Send it back, or if your too late, bin it.
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Post by Polarengineer on Jan 31, 2022 11:43:03 GMT 1
I have just looked closely at the picture and see what you mean by no earth. In fact there is no plug in existance that fits the lower two outlets. Another design fail. Send it back and next time get a long close look at the picture presented by Amazon. I made this mistake buying gear that had schuko plugs and then had to buy adapters.
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Post by robertarthur on Jan 31, 2022 12:11:35 GMT 1
@ JohnnyD, about workaround solutions. The world travel adapters are okay for low power equipment, phone and laptop chargers, but as soon as you want to use power tools they are not your first choice. Many of them also block the access to adjacent sockets in a bloc multiprise. Having (too) many Euro cables here, from decommissioned non-UK ict and audio equipment, wouldn't it be an idea to convert such a cable into a EU male / UK female extension lead? These (almost) universal power cables for the European continent conform to CE regs for electrical safety. Not being "only for France" you will not see the (in)famous NF sign. But where many other authorities think these cables are safe, you will also be safe on French territory. Rated at 10/16 A - 250 V. For your legal peace of mind: extension cables are within the framework of the so called Low Voltage Directive, have a look at page 73 and 74 of the Guidelines, the latest revision of 2018. |
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Post by hal on Jan 31, 2022 14:34:25 GMT 1
Not sure why every one is being so scathing today first adjustable spanners snd now, extension leads!
I have the same one in the UK where I have accumulated computer equipment with a mix of UK and Euro moulded plugs. I use all six slots perfectly well along with three of the usb sockets!
Check on the box or the paper in the box where it clearly says words to the effect that two pin plugs requiring an earth may not be earthed if used - (that, forgive me, should be blatantly obvious from the photo..😀)
As pretty well all computer peripherals and a majority of modern domestic appliances are double insulated, one does not need an earth…
By all means Johnny, listen to everyone who says it is rubbish, and if it helps, I will join in - but do throw it away my way please😀address available on request!
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Post by FFS on Jan 31, 2022 17:43:37 GMT 1
...along with three of the usb sockets! Ah, so that's what they are! I hadn't twigged. |
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Post by JohnnyD on Jan 31, 2022 18:00:36 GMT 1
Not sure why every one is being so scathing today first adjustable spanners snd now, extension leads! I have the same one in the UK where I have accumulated computer equipment with a mix of UK and Euro moulded plugs. I use all six slots perfectly well along with three of the usb sockets! Check on the box or the paper in the box where it clearly says words to the effect that two pin plugs requiring an earth may not be earthed if used - (that, forgive me, should be blatantly obvious from the photo..😀) As pretty well all computer peripherals and a majority of modern domestic appliances are double insulated, one does not need an earth… By all means Johnny, listen to everyone who says it is rubbish, and if it helps, I will join in - but do throw it away my way please😀address available on request! Its me who started the thread off saying i thought it was rubbish LoL .....everyone else just joined in, i am fully aware of the issues with it, i am only using it for low power computer stuff which is double insulated (I think) and the usb sockets, the current draw aspect of it is slightly worrying, 1mm for 13A is borderline to me......i don't suppose Amazon give a damn though |
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