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Post by ibis on May 16, 2022 17:52:15 GMT 1
A lot of people use gas for cooking here... Highest price ever..
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Post by pcpa on May 16, 2022 21:23:55 GMT 1
I was looking at the price in Leclerc today, my propane is €29.99 for 11kg, I think the butane is the same but more weight of gas because of the lower calorific value, they are probably 13kg. I thought I had been smart by getting a new cylinder each time for the €10 remise less the €5 consignment which I would get back when I took back all the extra cylinders, or so I thought  It turns out there is a déconsignement charge of €5  Only in France, €5 refundable deposit on the cylinder wiped out by the admin charge  |
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Post by ibis on May 16, 2022 21:28:01 GMT 1
We actually have a truck driving up and down the street honking (here it is thursdays). Bring your old bottle down to the street or if in a village, set outside your door and the driver will stop... They make it pretty simple here...
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Post by ForumUser2 on May 16, 2022 21:45:51 GMT 1
They'd need to.
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Post by lapourtaider on May 17, 2022 6:07:37 GMT 1
A lot of people use gas for cooking here... Highest price ever.. Difficult to make a direct comparison, as the article doesn't say which gas or how much quantity, but round here a 13kg butane is roughly twice that price. |
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Post by Aardvark on May 17, 2022 8:22:41 GMT 1
Variable between 30€ and 36€ around here so we dumped our gas cooker and went electric. When that goes beyond reach it will be cooking on top of the woodburner and candles for lighting.
Anyone got a horse and cart going cheap?
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Post by ibis on May 17, 2022 9:07:56 GMT 1
A lot of people use gas for cooking here... Highest price ever.. Difficult to make a direct comparison, as the article doesn't say which gas or how much quantity, but round here a 13kg butane is roughly twice that price. Most modern day "cookers" use butane; so the article is talking about butane... Only our bbq uses propane.. |
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Post by pcpa on May 17, 2022 9:44:46 GMT 1
That may be the case in Spain where perhaps the temperatures do not fall low enough in winter but in France if your bottles are stored outside then you must switch to propane in winter, most like me to avoid having too many cylinders (the Leclerc debace aside) use propane all year round.
Your cooker and your barbecue will both be capable of running propane or butane, the détendeurs are different for the pressures but I think the jets remain the same, I have only changed them for town or bottled gas.
I could be wrong but thats the way it works on my caravan but it does have a special changeover regulator with a pressure set to between that of butane and propane.
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Post by lapourtaider on May 17, 2022 10:48:32 GMT 1
Difficult to make a direct comparison, as the article doesn't say which gas or how much quantity, but round here a 13kg butane is roughly twice that price. Most modern day "cookers" use butane; so the article is talking about butane... Only our bbq uses propane.. That's as maybe, but the 19,99€ refers to what weight of gas? |
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Post by ibis on May 17, 2022 11:45:07 GMT 1
Most modern day "cookers" use butane; so the article is talking about butane... Only our bbq uses propane.. That's as maybe, but the 19,99€ refers to what weight of gas? the bottle I have from repsol says 12,5kg |
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Post by suein56 on May 17, 2022 13:20:03 GMT 1
That's as maybe, but the 19,99€ refers to what weight of gas? Our bottle says 11.2kg but only 6kg of that is the actual gas. |
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Post by Aardvark on May 17, 2022 19:41:21 GMT 1
Difficult to make a direct comparison, as the article doesn't say which gas or how much quantity, but round here a 13kg butane is roughly twice that price. Most modern day "cookers" use butane; so the article is talking about butane... Only our bbq uses propane.. "Most modern day cookers" can use either butane or propane. The different use depends where the gas bottle is to be stored. Butane is store indoors close to the cooker. Propane is stored outdoors, due to it being able to draw gas from the liquid at a much lower temperature without freezing up. The regulator fitted to the bottle compensates for the different internal pressure. |
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Post by pcpa on May 17, 2022 21:42:38 GMT 1
The internal pressure of the cylinders may be different but the détendeur/regulator is to reduce the pressure to that of the gas installation, one is at 28mbar the other at 37mbar IIRC, I can never recall which is which, my logic says that propane being the higher calorific value would use the lower pressure détendeur, the gas jet being a fixed size for butane/propane a greater quantity of butane will need to flow to produce the same flame.
My caravan has an auto cylinder changeover setup (when the first runs out it switches to the other) it can use either propane or butane and I think it is regulated to 30mbar being a compromise between the two, the handbook says that when using butane the gas ring flame will have yellow tips, the water heater, space heater & fridge all have outside flues so gases from incomplete combustion are not a concern.
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