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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2022 11:51:37 GMT 1
Taken from another site with the OPs permission. I think he will lose the bike. This is not me as you can see there are commas and dots I got stopped for speeding on my motorcycle at the weekend. They have seized my bike and my driving licence (UK) and told me I could no longer drive. It was quite a high speed. Can anyone talk me through the procedure from now. I think I'm going to get invited to visit the police station this week to make a statement or similar and I wondered whether I need a solicitor with me. Police have offered an English translator for that visit and while my French is OK for day-to-day living, this is probably beyond me and I'll need to understand completely. I don't clearly understand the procedure from the police to the prosecutor: for example how long it will take for me to learn the length of the ban, since I'm not allowed to drive now, does this period get accounted for when the ban is issued? And I'm assuming six points loss. Any thoughts or advice appreciated. I live very remotely, will be in real difficulty without a driving licence just day-to-day living and recognise I probably face a ban of some months. I'm not making excuses, it was my fault (and is the first time I've committed a speeding offence in more than 40 years) but it's very difficult to find information on how Brits who live here, with a UK licence then proceed when the speeding offence carries a ban. Thank you in advance for any guidance. ADDITION TO POST SIX HOURS LATER A sincere thanks to you all for the comments, there is information I'd not been able to find online. One of my concerns was the likely delay in getting the French licence when the ban finished and of course the likely bureaucracy of the French court system. I really can not live where I live with no car for five or six months plus, so I'm considering other options - perhaps back to the UK where the ban won't apply, if I can replace my licence (??). For those who asked I was doing substantially more than the 80 limit (140) - it was a clear wide road, no other vehicles, sunny day... but I admit I was speeding.
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Post by Polarengineer on May 20, 2022 11:58:05 GMT 1
You should advise him to get one of those mini two cylinder ( or one) cars that do not need a licence.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2022 14:19:53 GMT 1
To the original author. Quite honestly why would you worry about not having a licence? Just continue to drive, what are the chances of being caught? Other than that simply tell them you are a gypsy and you’ll be fine.
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Post by Polarengineer on May 20, 2022 14:45:03 GMT 1
You forgot the "d" at the end of fine.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2022 15:39:33 GMT 1
You are thinking of another word PE. One that doesn’t appear in the gypsy dictionary.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2022 18:06:37 GMT 1
You are thinking of another word PE. One that doesn’t appear in the gypsy dictionary. You cannot say all gypsies are not honest.
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Post by pcpa on May 20, 2022 20:41:51 GMT 1
This is what happens when you get caught doing 140km/h in an 80km/h limit, the headline article from todays local paper:
Mercredi 18 mai vers 17 h 20, un automobiliste, âgé de 21 ans, a été flashé à 141 km/h, retenu 133, alors que la vitesse autorisée à cet endroit est de 80 km/h.
L’infraction a été constatée hors agglomération de Curlu, sur la RD938, en direction d’Albert. Le véhicule, une BMW série 3, a été saisi, tandis que le permis de conduire du jeune pilote a été confisqué.
So the guy is very lucky to still have a vehicle that he now wants to drive illegally whilst banned, as he is talking of going back to the UK because he cannot live without a car I reckon the only reason they didn't take it was that it was UK registered, as has been proposed he should buy and use a VSP the cost of which and the shame attached are an integral part of the punishment
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Post by beejay on May 21, 2022 15:06:25 GMT 1
AIUI (but I can't find the link) for serious offences the initial immobilisation of a vehicle and suspension of licence is for three days pending a court hearing
from Sécurité Routière website
In the event of a finding of an offence that may lead to compulsory confiscation of the vehicle, the law enforcement agencies (police or gendarmerie) may, with the prior authorization of the public prosecutor, have the vehicle immobilized at the vehicle pound.
If the judge does not pronounce a sentence of confiscation of the vehicle it is returned to its owner.
If the judge pronounces a sentence of confiscation, the vehicle is handed over for its destruction or its sale. The costs of removal and impoundment are the responsibility of the purchaser.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2022 15:21:54 GMT 1
Beejay it's pretty brutal to lose your car not sure it was always like that not that long ago a Swiss national was caught 😳 in a Lamborghini or ferrari going very fast he got held overnight fined and kicked out of France and got his car sent back to Switzerland.
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Post by beejay on May 21, 2022 15:28:46 GMT 1
This is what happens when you get caught doing 140km/h in an 80km/h limit, the headline article from todays local paper: Mercredi 18 mai vers 17 h 20, un automobiliste, âgé de 21 ans, a été flashé à 141 km/h, retenu 133, alors que la vitesse autorisée à cet endroit est de 80 km/h.
L’infraction a été constatée hors agglomération de Curlu, sur la RD938, en direction d’Albert. Le véhicule, une BMW série 3, a été saisi, tandis que le permis de conduire du jeune pilote a été confisqué.So the guy is very lucky to still have a vehicle that he now wants to drive illegally whilst banned, as he is talking of going back to the UK because he cannot live without a car I reckon the only reason they didn't take it was that it was UK registered, as has been proposed he should buy and use a VSP the cost of which and the shame attached are an integral part of the punishment
Your local paper - I thought you had moved south?
Is it a UK resident, UK registered vehicle and UK licence? If so, the confiscated licence will be sent to DVLA so he will have no licence (to produce) in France but is not 'banned' per se. The car can be recovered from the pound by a correctly licenced and authorised person paying the costs.
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Post by beejay on May 21, 2022 15:35:55 GMT 1
Beejay it's pretty brutal to lose your car not sure it was always like that not that long ago a Swiss national was caught 😳 in a Lamborghini or ferrari going very fast he got held overnight fined and kicked out of France and got his car sent back to Switzerland.
Pretty much what I posted re a UK driver applying to all foreigners.
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Post by Le-Dolly on May 21, 2022 17:58:50 GMT 1
My youngest brother (UK resident) and his bird got a pull when on the way back from hols in Italy and heading our way for a visit. He was doing 150, that's MPH, when he was eventually flagged over. After the collection of Gendarmes had all sat in the car and made brum, brum noises he was escorted, by convoy, two M/C outriders and a car taking up the rear, to the nearest ATM to produce the cost of the fine, with receipt, and then released to continue on his merry way.
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Post by pcpa on May 21, 2022 21:48:56 GMT 1
Your local paper - I thought you had moved south? I am split between 3 places at present and my stuff is split between 5 locations, South is home as in where my heart is, North is still my foyer fiscale and where my financial affairs are, I have not yet moved onto the site of my new home and am commuting an hour each day from my caravan base, until I am there on site in the caravan and with most of my clothes, tools & materials I can't really say I have moved South although 95% of my stuff from the UK has already made its way to France, logistics are complicated and nothing can be planned, I have to react quickly to an ever changing situation in the North and the UK. Regarding the local paper, they will deliver it to your holiday home but only for 2 weeks and need several months notice, OK for most French but not me, even having it stopped while I am in the UK requires far too much notice, so I no longer have it delivered but have an internet abonnement hence my reading it here, it didn't feel right writing "local paper" but I don't even yet know what the one here is called.
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Post by beejay on May 22, 2022 14:49:03 GMT 1
Your local paper - I thought you had moved south? I am split between 3 places at present and my stuff is split between 5 locations, South is home as in where my heart is, North is still my foyer fiscale and where my financial affairs are, I have not yet moved onto the site of my new home and am commuting an hour each day from my caravan base, until I am there on site in the caravan and with most of my clothes, tools & materials I can't really say I have moved South although 95% of my stuff from the UK has already made its way to France, logistics are complicated and nothing can be planned, I have to react quickly to an ever changing situation in the North and the UK. Regarding the local paper, they will deliver it to your holiday home but only for 2 weeks and need several months notice, OK for most French but not me, even having it stopped while I am in the UK requires far too much notice, so I no longer have it delivered but have an internet abonnement hence my reading it here, it didn't feel right writing "local paper" but I don't even yet know what the one here is called.
You can read the headlines of a regional press free of charge or access the full version for a fee here. Just select the region required from the drop down.
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Post by beejay on May 22, 2022 15:18:41 GMT 1
My youngest brother (UK resident) and his bird got a pull when on the way back from hols in Italy and heading our way for a visit. He was doing 150, that's MPH, when he was eventually flagged over. After the collection of Gendarmes had all sat in the car and made brum, brum noises he was escorted, by convoy, two M/C outriders and a car taking up the rear, to the nearest ATM to produce the cost of the fine, with receipt, and then released to continue on his merry way.
A case of not all coppers are &*%&*
My son (UK resident/UK car) had a similar experience when caught doing 140+ k/hr in a 90 on Sunday morning on a deserted road in the Jura.
A warning that he was liable to vehicle and licence confiscation at that speed but they would only impose a €135 penalty. They then allowed his wife to drive to an ATM whilst my son entertained them in their mobile office.
He received a 'jugement au tribunal de Police' several months later after the case had been submitted to court which confirmed that the penalty was accepted and approved.
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