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Post by triumphant on Aug 1, 2021 14:27:34 GMT 1
Friends recently left France to return to live in South Africa, I have no idea why!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2021 18:51:06 GMT 1
Perhaps they like the country/weather and think that the indigionous population has some sort of point.
We should all live together.
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Post by rabbit on Aug 3, 2021 8:44:09 GMT 1
I have visited a few times on business. It is a beautiful country but is a tinder box and I would not want to live there. I predict a very unstable future.
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Post by triumphant on Aug 3, 2021 9:59:32 GMT 1
What surprise's me is that the reasons they gave 10 or 11 years ago for wanting to leave seem even more prevalent now than then. Maybe the pull of family and friends proved too much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 13:07:12 GMT 1
Did you not ask them why ?
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Post by triumphant on Aug 3, 2021 14:14:27 GMT 1
Yes I did and they said it was to be back with family and friends, it just seems like a high price to pay and they had a good circle of friends here in France. But as I said the pull of family probably got to them in the end. Interestingly when we were viewing properties 10+ years ago here in France the number of people selling to return home because of that pull was extremely high and it was usually driven by the woman in the relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 19:09:05 GMT 1
I gather that you are male.
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Post by triumphant on Aug 3, 2021 19:24:40 GMT 1
I gather that you are male. Non-binary.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 20:03:37 GMT 1
Half right then.
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Post by Aardvark on Aug 4, 2021 9:26:29 GMT 1
I thank my lucky stars I don't have any family or friends back in UK. I would rather be boiled in oil than go back there for any reason.
Years ago one of my closest friends was invited out to S. Africa to join his brother who had a printing business there. He packed up his belongings (including a custom car I had build for him) and emigrated. At first he enjoyed it immensely and made many good friends. At one point he offered to pay my expenses to go out there to respray the car and have a sort of working holiday. I had other commitments at the time so had to decline. His new life began to turn sour after only about two years. He lived with this brother there in a nice suburb of Johannesburg. High wall around the property and guard dogs turned loose inside at night. Firearms in a cupboard, etc. etc. At work he was continually told not to get too friendly with the locals. He started getting into arguments with his brother about treating them as "equals". The last straw was when he went into Soweto township to attend a Shirley Bassey concert. He supposedly should not have gone to Soweto. Apartheid was just too distasteful for my friend and he returned and spent his final days in soggy UK.
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Post by FFS on Aug 4, 2021 16:28:53 GMT 1
Years ago one of my closest friends was invited out to S. Africa to join his brother .... It sounds as if your friend was much more liberal-minded than his brother, obviously the brother had been 'corrupted' by the system.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2021 21:09:19 GMT 1
3 years ago we spent a month travelling the Garden Route in SA. It was a wonderful place.
Whilst we did not encounter any violence we did get the feeling that it will take many years to overcome the effects of apartheid.
Sadly the "whites" there still seemed to thnk that the indigionous population were somewhat inferior to them and hey still live as described earlier.
A long way to go.
Its good though that "ethnic" (sic) cleansing is not happening too violently in that area.
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