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Post by Nutty on Jun 26, 2023 14:52:23 GMT 1
To misquote an ex-member. Brexiteers are the sort of people who would unplug your life-support machine so they could charge their phone. That misquote is so bizarre that I wonder what the actual quote was? The 2016 Referendum question was simply "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?" It was a black or white question - there were no nuances, mentions of shellfish, cartes de sejour or the 1001 ways in which Brexit could affect us as individuals. It had to be a binary question. If you drill down through all the flim-flam, the question asked addressed the core issue - yes or no. There was no hokey cokey option. We'd been asked a similar question in the 1975 - "Do you think the United Kingdom should stay in the European Community (the Common Market)?" Again, a yes no question. The UK's democratic traditions are deeply rooted. How many other countries had referenda to confirm their membership of the EEC and also to vote on their continued membership of the organisation that the EEC had become? Nutty
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Post by jackie on Jun 26, 2023 17:56:28 GMT 1
The premise is democratic but in the end it all comes down what info the electorate use to base their decision on…..
Joining the EU was one thing but leaving throws up a whole lot of complex implications and repercussions. Perhaps that’s why other countries haven’t put leaving to the vote…
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Post by woolybanana on Jun 26, 2023 18:36:22 GMT 1
They dare not, Jackie!
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Post by ForumUser2 on Jun 26, 2023 18:40:11 GMT 1
To misquote an ex-member. Brexiteers are the sort of people who would unplug your life-support machine so they could charge their phone. That misquote is so bizarre that I wonder what the actual quote was? The 2016 Referendum question was simply "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?" It was a black or white question - there were no nuances, mentions of shellfish, cartes de sejour or the 1001 ways in which Brexit could affect us as individuals. It had to be a binary question. If you drill down through all the flim-flam, the question asked addressed the core issue - yes or no. There was no hokey cokey option. We'd been asked a similar question in the 1975 - "Do you think the United Kingdom should stay in the European Community (the Common Market)?" Again, a yes no question. The UK's democratic traditions are deeply rooted. How many other countries had referenda to confirm their membership of the EEC and also to vote on their continued membership of the organisation that the EEC had become? Nutty That the Leave camp tapped into the Little Englander mentality with deception and downright lies isn't relevant? Of course it was a yes/no referendum - but that's just too simplistic. It was an appeal to atavistic tribalism against liberal conscience.
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Post by Nifty on Jun 26, 2023 19:17:07 GMT 1
‘ He said the Brexit process was confusing, like “walking through Hampton Court maze blindfolded, being turned around 16 times and trying to find your way out”.
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Post by jackie on Jun 26, 2023 19:26:41 GMT 1
Really? Most French people I speak to think the Brits were mad to leave.
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Post by norfolk on Jun 26, 2023 19:57:39 GMT 1
Funny how the Frexiteers seemed to have gone quiet over the past few years…..
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