Nifty
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Post by Nifty on Aug 18, 2023 9:17:39 GMT 1
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Post by Nifty on Aug 18, 2023 9:29:57 GMT 1
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Aardvark
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Living in soggy 22 and still wondering what's going on.
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Aug 18, 2023 20:29:39 GMT 1
Post by Aardvark on Aug 18, 2023 20:29:39 GMT 1
I was attempting to wade through the first link when I was having trouble staying awake and wondering how they define the "poverty level" they are banging on about. Then I spotted this: "The United Kingdom currently does not have an official measurement of poverty." Then I scanned a bit farther and it said something about people earning less than a certain weekly amount. During all the mentioned decades I was always earning less than the figures mentioned but I never felt I was living in poverty. Although I never held a full time secure job from the Thatcher years onward I always found a way to scratch a living. Job security was nothing more than a fanciful notion. It wasn't until I had to sell my house because I couldn't earn enough to pay the bills that I started thinking in terms of poverty. And having escaped to France I now look back and can't believe what people have to pay for a roof over their heads in a safe neighbourhood. All the talk of "careers" as opposed to jobs to earn a survival amount points to an ever increasing gap in the social structure. So many big earners making their fortunes gambling with someone else's money never breaking into a sweat talking about well-earned holidays multiple times a year. I seem to be seeing this from some other parallel universe.
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Aug 18, 2023 20:44:31 GMT 1
Post by Nifty on Aug 18, 2023 20:44:31 GMT 1
This rang a few bells for me
‘ Taylor had been hostile to the radical reformers, writing: "They have appealed not to the reason but the passions and the suffering of their abused and credulous fellow-countrymen, from whose ill-requited industry they extort for themselves the means of a plentiful and comfortable existence. They do not toil, neither do they spin, but they live better than those that do."[25] When the government closed down the Manchester Observer, the mill-owners' champions had the upper hand.[26]
The influential journalist Jeremiah Garnett joined Taylor during the establishment of the paper, and all of the Little Circle wrote articles for the new paper.[27] The prospectus announcing the new publication proclaimed that it would "zealously enforce the principles of civil and religious Liberty ... warmly advocate the cause of Reform ... endeavour to assist in the diffusion of just principles of Political Economy and ... support, without reference to the party from which they emanate, all serviceable measures".[28] In 1825, the paper merged with the British Volunteer and was known as The Manchester Guardian and British Volunteer until 1828.[29]
The working-class Manchester and Salford Advertiser called The Manchester Guardian "the foul prostitute and dirty parasite of the worst portion of the mill-owners".[30] The Manchester Guardian was generally hostile to labour's claims. Of the 1832 Ten Hours Bill, the paper doubted whether in view of the foreign competition "the passing of a law positively enacting a gradual destruction of the cotton manufacture in this kingdom would be a much less rational procedure."[31] The Manchester Guardian dismissed strikes as the work of outside agitators, stating that "if an accommodation can be effected, the occupation of the agents of the Union is gone. They live on strife ... ."
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