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Post by triumphant on Sept 28, 2023 6:23:06 GMT 1
It would seem that he has had the support of that guilty until proven innocent character Michael Barrymore so Brandt did nothing wrong. All sounds a bit like the totally innocent Donald Trump. I bet he voted for Brexit too! Guilty for sure, tried by social media.
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Post by glazedallover on Sept 29, 2023 14:01:19 GMT 1
I'm sure that Willy Brandt would have voted for Brexit.........
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Post by rabbit on Sept 29, 2023 16:27:14 GMT 1
When I was in the corporate world the people I feared most were those with a gift of the gab but not very intelligent. They had the chat to be able to convince senior management but without the intellect to see the flaws. Brand to my mind is one of these. He is becoming a far left force and spouts like he is a messiah, but really he is not very bright. I remember him being interviewed by Paxman who quickly shot him to pieces. He is ( or was) earning over £1m pa yet spouts anti capitalist rhetoric.
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Post by Nifty on Sept 29, 2023 16:32:29 GMT 1
It would seem that he has had the support of that guilty until proven innocent character Michael Barrymore so Brandt did nothing wrong. All sounds a bit like the totally innocent Donald Trump. I bet he voted for Brexit too! Guilty for sure, tried by social media. Burn ‘em. edit. I have been tried by the Grand Vizer of FB and condemned for making just that comment.
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Post by Nifty on Sept 29, 2023 16:35:51 GMT 1
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Post by woolybanana on Sept 29, 2023 22:13:16 GMT 1
When I was in the corporate world the people I feared most were those with a gift of the gab but not very intelligent. They had the chat to be able to convince senior management but without the intellect to see the flaws. Brand to my mind is one of these. He is becoming a far left force and spouts like he is a messiah, but really he is not very bright. I remember him being interviewed by Paxman who quickly shot him to pieces. He is ( or was) earning over £1m pa yet spouts anti capitalist rhetoric. How does this differ from differ from all far left spouters, class warriors all?😵💫
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Post by ForumUser2 on Sept 30, 2023 7:17:54 GMT 1
When I was in the corporate world the people I feared most were those with a gift of the gab but not very intelligent. They had the chat to be able to convince senior management but without the intellect to see the flaws. Brand to my mind is one of these. He is becoming a far left force and spouts like he is a messiah, but really he is not very bright. I remember him being interviewed by Paxman who quickly shot him to pieces. He is ( or was) earning over £1m pa yet spouts anti capitalist rhetoric. How does this differ from differ from all far left spouters, class warriors all?😵💫 They haven't all been accused of assault.
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Post by Nifty on Sept 30, 2023 8:20:00 GMT 1
When I was in the corporate world the people I feared most were those with a gift of the gab but not very intelligent. They had the chat to be able to convince senior management but without the intellect to see the flaws. Brand to my mind is one of these. He is becoming a far left force and spouts like he is a messiah, but really he is not very bright. I remember him being interviewed by Paxman who quickly shot him to pieces. He is ( or was) earning over £1m pa yet spouts anti capitalist rhetoric. How does this differ from differ from all far left spouters, class warriors all?😵💫 Point of view depends on where one is situated.
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Post by mangetout on Sept 30, 2023 13:02:25 GMT 1
I belong to a craft group, all women, mostly British. All in our 70s, some older. We discussed Brand whilst we sat together doing our individual crafts and I was astounded at the consensus. To a woman, except for me, they thought it was a lot of noise over nothing. They said it's normal for men to harass women, you've just got to put them in their place! As someone who was raped as a young girl I find that utterly appalling. I didn't reveal my past but I tried to convince them that his behaviour was vile and he needed to be called out. Most agreed he was a nasty bit of work but that it's just something women have to put up with. That's like saying "if I had to put up with it, so do you". I despair of my own sex if they won't stand up for young girls.
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Post by mysty on Sept 30, 2023 22:44:59 GMT 1
I belong to a craft group, all women, mostly British. All in our 70s, some older. We discussed Brand whilst we sat together doing our individual crafts and I was astounded at the consensus. To a woman, except for me, they thought it was a lot of noise over nothing. They said it's normal for men to harass women, you've just got to put them in their place! As someone who was raped as a young girl I find that utterly appalling. I didn't reveal my past but I tried to convince them that his behaviour was vile and he needed to be called out. Most agreed he was a nasty bit of work but that it's just something women have to put up with. That's like saying "if I had to put up with it, so do you". I despair of my own sex if they won't stand up for young girls. It is no safer for woman today and has probably got even more violent than when you were a young girl. Last week a young school girl was murdered for apparently rejecting a males advances. In some regions of the world men rape young girls and rarely get procecuted others get hot fat thrown over them if they bring shame on the family. The world is sick and always will be.
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Post by gigi on Sept 30, 2023 23:28:14 GMT 1
I belong to a craft group, all women, mostly British. All in our 70s, some older. We discussed Brand whilst we sat together doing our individual crafts and I was astounded at the consensus. To a woman, except for me, they thought it was a lot of noise over nothing. They said it's normal for men to harass women, you've just got to put them in their place! As someone who was raped as a young girl I find that utterly appalling. I didn't reveal my past but I tried to convince them that his behaviour was vile and he needed to be called out. Most agreed he was a nasty bit of work but that it's just something women have to put up with. That's like saying "if I had to put up with it, so do you". I despair of my own sex if they won't stand up for young girls. I ‘liked’ your post as I despair too in the face of such a mass lack of support for young women.
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Post by lapourtaider on Oct 1, 2023 7:40:22 GMT 1
As someone who was raped as a young girl Words are insufficient to express my admiration for you for having lead a full life with this terrible experience forever burned in your memory.
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Post by jackie on Oct 1, 2023 10:05:30 GMT 1
I belong to a craft group, all women, mostly British. All in our 70s, some older. We discussed Brand whilst we sat together doing our individual crafts and I was astounded at the consensus. To a woman, except for me, they thought it was a lot of noise over nothing. They said it's normal for men to harass women, you've just got to put them in their place! As someone who was raped as a young girl I find that utterly appalling. I didn't reveal my past but I tried to convince them that his behaviour was vile and he needed to be called out. Most agreed he was a nasty bit of work but that it's just something women have to put up with. That's like saying "if I had to put up with it, so do you". I despair of my own sex if they won't stand up for young girls. A generational thing I hope. I feel as though there’s a war going on to push women down again going on - a young girl was stabbed and killed this week for rejecting a boys advances and I despair at Andrew Tates awful misogynistic videos being so popular. So sorry for your experience, Mangetout xxxxx
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Post by rabbit on Oct 1, 2023 10:05:36 GMT 1
When I was in the corporate world the people I feared most were those with a gift of the gab but not very intelligent. They had the chat to be able to convince senior management but without the intellect to see the flaws. Brand to my mind is one of these. He is becoming a far left force and spouts like he is a messiah, but really he is not very bright. I remember him being interviewed by Paxman who quickly shot him to pieces. He is ( or was) earning over £1m pa yet spouts anti capitalist rhetoric. How does this differ from differ from all far left spouters, class warriors all?😵💫 some of them are intelligent.
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Post by jackie on Oct 1, 2023 10:05:59 GMT 1
I belong to a craft group, all women, mostly British. All in our 70s, some older. We discussed Brand whilst we sat together doing our individual crafts and I was astounded at the consensus. To a woman, except for me, they thought it was a lot of noise over nothing. They said it's normal for men to harass women, you've just got to put them in their place! As someone who was raped as a young girl I find that utterly appalling. I didn't reveal my past but I tried to convince them that his behaviour was vile and he needed to be called out. Most agreed he was a nasty bit of work but that it's just something women have to put up with. That's like saying "if I had to put up with it, so do you". I despair of my own sex if they won't stand up for young girls. A generational thing I hope although I feel as though there’s a war going on to push women down again going on - a young girl was stabbed and killed this week for rejecting a boys advances and I despair at Andrew Tates awful misogynistic videos being so popular. So sorry for your experience, Mangetout xxxxx
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