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Post by jardiniere on Sept 20, 2023 10:01:00 GMT 1
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Post by mangetout on Sept 20, 2023 11:25:36 GMT 1
That's appalling.
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Nifty
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Post by Nifty on Sept 20, 2023 11:37:09 GMT 1
None of that nonsense around here, and, I have been otherwise engaged. My morning report might demonstrate that everything is of equal importance. It is up to you to make what you want of it.
Wed. 20/9/23 I have been pretty lazy for the past month or so. It as been too hot. I have just cleared the weeds from the flat and been for a walk around the cemetery to see what has been happening in the direct outside world. The nursery school still looks to be closed, but, there were two cars in the carpark. Piles of sand, gravel and tarmac could indicate that they might be going to develop a proper car park; 4 large reels of communications (?) cable are still on the plot of public ground where they have been since Christmas last. The roof on one of the ruined block of cottages, of which one is inhabited is collapsed to a state that makes me wonder who owns the property is and what the status of those that occupy the one that is inhabited is and what, plans the owner has for its future, if any? All the hay on the reserve has not been made this year but some of the grass has been cut some left, for what reason ?
Almost forgot my virtue signalling. They’ GDF or whoever have filled in massive hole they dug in order to replace valves etc. It has been there for months. I noticed that there were quite few large stones on the surface of the soil. An invite card for weeds. So, I spent a couple of minutes end placed them by a nearby wall.
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Post by tim17 on Sept 20, 2023 11:40:56 GMT 1
We've seen both sides of the French education system, our kids spent the majority of their school life in France all the way through to Uni whilst one of our DIL's is a newish primary school teacher. The biggest issue we had with the kids education was that they were forever being sent home due to staff sickness or strikes, there were no supply or cover teachers so if the teacher wasn't there they were sent to the 'study room' or more often than not we got a call to collect them, when you've four kids in different schools in different towns that's a complete pain. DIL is forever complaining about her salary and working hours even at primary level, in addition she is appointed to a school rather than applying for an open position so could end up having to travel for an hour which is not pleasant in the winter months and expensive with the current cost of fuel.
As an aside, OH is teaching physics in a Secondary school in Norwich and is appalled at the behaviour of some of the kids who she describes as 'feral', she even has grief from her 'A' Level class of twelve some of whom just don't turn up and hide in the school grounds until it's time to go home.
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Post by jardiniere on Sept 20, 2023 14:19:28 GMT 1
in addition she is appointed to a school rather than applying for an open position This is such an odd system and long travelling hours or being far away from family support puts extra pressure on the teachers. OH is teaching physics in a Secondary school in Norwich and is appalled at the behaviour of some of the kids who she describes as 'feral' It seems there's such a lack of respect for teachers now, UK or France. Germany seems to come out quite well.
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Post by iolar on Dec 18, 2023 11:09:22 GMT 1
Education is the most important part of any society. When it is neglected, when it is used for propaganda purposes, when it is under funded that society will begin to dysfunction and eventually collapse.
I remember reading somewhere in the early 90s' that the Dutch read 5 x times more books than the Brits. A lot of UK homes only have car manuals, no books. My wife was a nurse teacher and was appalled at the level of written English from her students that were ex university.
I remember a lot of my teachers in secondary school were teachers because they couldn't find a way to stay 'perpetual students' at university.
Living in Brighton & Hove when lots of English language schools began to open in the 60s' I witnessed the behaviour of language students mostly from France/Italy/Spain/Germany/Japan and Scandinavia. As a young man nowhere else in the country could you see girls/young women from so many countries and notice the difference in behaviour from our own (I make no further comment).
What was striking was the difference in attitude between students from southern Europe and the rest. Those from southern Europe didn't really mix with others or with the locals, they only seemed to speak in their own languages. The Germans and the Japanese only ever spoke to each other in English, they of course learned to speak excellent English. When I was living in the Netherlands at the end of the 70s' even young kids of 9 or so spoke excellent English. The Dutch tend to watch a lot of UK TV programmes (for free) and complain that the sub-titles don't do a good job of translating the English. Today, if you aren't fluent or nearly so in two other languages the Dutch will find it hard to get anything other than menial work. That's why it is easy for the Dutch to get jobs in other countries or with foreign companies.
Dutch and Belgian TV don't dub programmes they always sub-title. Living in Spain and now France I am appalled at how badly both countries dub programmes into their own languages, they make no attempt to try and replicate the meaning of the original.
And here comes another complaint about the EU - it should be obligatory for all foreign language programmes to be available in the original language with sub-titles not dubbing. The insanity in not having one unifying langauge taught in all EU schools, really holds back integration between EU countries.
Bad behaviour has been a part of at first just English and now all UK schools and no surprise that this is now a feature of other European countries. I used to know a Russian guy who in Russia had been an aerospace engineer. He left as soon as he could, ended up living in Bilbao and married an Euskadi nurse and had one daughter. At 10 she was fluent in Euskadi, (Basque)Spanish and had very good Russian and English, she spent each summer in Russia living with her babushka/grandmother. She was a very good pianist and as Igor said "she will never go to a Spanish university, they are lazy. She will go to university in Russia, in Russia you have to work damn hard". It's no surprise that there re so many very good IT people in Russia, also in the Baltic countries. They understand the importance of education as do the Japanese.
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