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Post by leclairon on Oct 15, 2023 14:32:17 GMT 1
I think I saw somewhere that if you put up an abri in the garden which had the see-through plastic ondulated sheeting on the roof, no planning was necessary, presumably because it is considered 'temporary'.
Does anyone know if that is correct, even if the abri is bigger than 5 sq metres?
We are thinking of putting a lean-to on the side of the garage with the above roofing.
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Post by Aardvark on Oct 15, 2023 15:54:21 GMT 1
I have no idea about that situation but I have heard that a lot depends on the size of any concrete base you place it on. More than a couple of square metres could be considered a permanent structure.
Probably b*ll*x though.
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Post by lapourtaider on Oct 15, 2023 15:58:19 GMT 1
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Post by jeliecrack on Oct 15, 2023 16:52:01 GMT 1
up to 5m2 then no permis de constuire may,a decleration de travaux might be needed, best place for any information is the mairie.
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Post by leclairon on Oct 15, 2023 17:33:05 GMT 1
Thanks. I was just hoping it might save another form but probably not. It won't have a special base, just two poles with the plastic roofing stretching out from the garage to store stuff underneath in the dry. It will be between 5 and 20 so would need a declaration it seems.
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Post by houpla on Oct 15, 2023 18:53:15 GMT 1
That sounds as though it's entirely at the discretion of your Mairie, leclairon. Some communes are applying the recent rules not only to the letter, but a bit beyond, while others are far more relaxed about the details of the construction. Depends how keen they are to grab some Taxe d'Amenagement. If there's no base and no walls involved, they'll probably just shrug and tell you to go away  Fingers crossed for you! |
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Post by leclairon on Oct 15, 2023 19:09:25 GMT 1
Thqnks. That sounds encouraging.
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Post by exile on Oct 15, 2023 20:33:50 GMT 1
I would strongly advise against a plastic roof unless you want to redo it after every strong hail storm.
The result of a storm on double walled sheet plastic was a series of holes of various sizes in the roof panels. The shed is protected by adjacent trees and the house.
Sorry tried to insert a picture but failed
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Post by exile on Oct 15, 2023 20:43:51 GMT 1
I would strongly advise against a plastic roof unless you want to redo it after every strong hail storm. The result of a storm on double walled sheet plastic was a series of holes of various sizes in the roof panels. The shed is protected by adjacent trees and the house. Sorry tried to insert a picture but failedAttachments:
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Post by leclairon on Oct 15, 2023 20:58:05 GMT 1
Thanks,Exile. To be honest, we were only considering it because we thought it would obviate any declaration and the side of the garage is sheltered. If a declaration is necessary, then we might as well put something more substantial.
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Post by robertarthur on Oct 15, 2023 21:10:38 GMT 1
From this French website:Permission must be sought to build a lean-to against a house, in the same way as for a lean-to carport. This is because the construction changes the original appearance of the building and involves a footprint. The choice between planning permission and preliminary works declaration depends on the surface area of the project and whether or not there is a historic monument or protected site near the house. You should also take into account whether or not there is a local town planning scheme. Some communes do not have one, while others require certain criteria to be met (colour of rendering, choice of main material, etc.). If you have a footprint of less than 20 m², you don't need to apply for planning permission at the town hall. All you need is a simple works declaration. Note that this planning rule applies to other parking spaces such as garages, carports, carports, etc. Garden sheds also require planning permission if their surface area exceeds 5 m². About this so called "déclaration préalable", it's a step-by-step procedure.
Also needed a " Plan de masse de la construction (PC2)" and a " Plan en coupe du terrain et de la construction (PC3)". |
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Post by limousinlady on Oct 16, 2023 12:09:13 GMT 1
I would strongly advise against a plastic roof unless you want to redo it after every strong hail storm. The result of a storm on double walled sheet plastic was a series of holes of various sizes in the roof panels. The shed is protected by adjacent trees and the house. Sorry tried to insert a picture but failedWe had to replace part of our garage roof, which had undulating plastic because of holes. When we took it down it had melted in places due to the effects of the sun. |
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Post by leclairon on Oct 16, 2023 13:34:47 GMT 1
Thank you RA for the links. That seems pretty definite.
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Fingers crossed for you!
