ian
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Post by ian on Jan 27, 2024 18:17:49 GMT 1
Can anyone tell me what is involved, physically, with installing fibre?
I hear from one friend that she can't (currently) get fibre because her telephone connection travels from the edge of her garden to her house via gaine, and the gaine has been judged too small (to pull fibre, I guess). Which would indicate that fibre is thicker than copper.
Another friends tells me that when he had fibre installed, the workmanship in routing it was rough. If he'd the opportunity again, he'd do a lot of the routing work himself.
And, where does the fibre come from? My FT connection arrives via wires in the air, from the nearest pole. But all the fibre work I've seen seems to use underground ducting, to/from manholes.
In an ideal world, I'd ignore the FT connection (pole to gable end, through wall, along grenier to master prise, extension to secondary prise at my desk) and get a connection straight to my desk. Which sits against an outside wall.
And, finally, what would I get at the end point? RJ45 prise? Something new, requiring new cables?
Grateful for any help, as usual.
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JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Jan 27, 2024 19:00:46 GMT 1
I’m cooking at the moment, but if i dont get time tonight, i will respond tomorrow, we had it installed earlier this year in a small village in Mayenne.
JD
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Post by ajm on Jan 27, 2024 19:14:20 GMT 1
We had it installed 2 years ago. The fibre cable was pulled through using the old copper wire.
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suein56
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Post by suein56 on Jan 27, 2024 22:28:45 GMT 1
And, where does the fibre come from? My FT connection arrives via wires in the air, from the nearest pole. But all the fibre work I've seen seems to use underground ducting, to/from manholes. Whilst waiting for Johnny's reply .. We have the underground cabling via the old telephone wire 'gaine' to the house but a friend was connected, like you, by an overhead cable from a pole. There the old telephone cabling was replaced from the 'cabinet' to the pole by fibre cabling - then directly overhead to the house. A small hole was drilled to gain access to the house so the new Livebox could be placed in a central position - the house had been extended since the arrival of the original telephone/adsl wire. There is a small 'junction' box placed where you want it to be - depending on how you will use your fibre - Orange TV ? Internet only .. etc. If you Google fibre installation in French then you will find Youtube videos all about the process. I found them v useful.
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ian
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Post by ian on Jan 28, 2024 7:47:46 GMT 1
Thanks, suein56, will do that this morning.
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Post by Polarengineer on Jan 28, 2024 8:26:08 GMT 1
Having installed my own fibre line to a remote building, I can explain some of the process. depending on how the cable is supplied, it may already have the required length measured and supplied with connector plugs at each end. then to pull it through a conduit, the connectors would need a clear diameter of 40mm (this is assuming LC connector single mode) as you can see, the connector is much larger than the cable. the cable may contain 4 fibres and be 6mm diam. The intallers usually offer FTTH (Fibre To The House) which means they will run the cable from a distribution box to your house and to wherever you want the router. it could be where your old router is situated. you will receive a new router that will accept the fibre LC plug and from the router you connect to your computers via the normal ethernet plugs and wifi. I expect the fibre cable they use is pre measured and with connectors as this can be factory tested. the guys that recently installed th 24 fibre main line on poles down our road have installed the distribution box to serve our village on the central located pole and spent a full day attaching the plugs to the cable. This is a very special connection and I too spent quite some time attaching the LC plugs. steady hands and good eyes are required, I had trouble even seeing the fibre which is thinner than a hair strand.
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Post by jeliecrack on Jan 28, 2024 8:56:31 GMT 1
a standard telecom buried conduit is 40mm diametre
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Post by elsie on Jan 28, 2024 9:01:09 GMT 1
This video shows the step-by-step installation of the fibre termination box in a house PTO (Prise Terminale Optique). The technician will bring the fibre cable into the house and then cut it to length and connect it in the box.
The box has a connector socket for a fibre optic cable with plugs at either end. One goes into the box and the other into the router. Some older routers have a socket for fibre as well as for ADSL. I changed to SFR and received a new router.
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Post by lapourtaider on Jan 28, 2024 9:16:01 GMT 1
The intallers usually offer FTTH (Fibre To The House) which means they will run the cable from a distribution box to your house and to wherever you want the router. it could be where your old router is situated. you will receive a new router that will accept the fibre LC plug and from the router you connect to your computers via the normal ethernet plugs and wifi. I expect the fibre cable they use is pre measured and with connectors as this can be factory tested. When it was installed in our old house, all connections from the box out on the arm in the street to where we wanted the router in the house were made up there and then. They couldn't know in advance where the router was going to be. For Ian, the cable inside was glued in place, and depending on the installer and the aesthetics, will either be a single fibre or the thicker multi fibre before terminating in a single fibre.
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Post by hereford on Jan 28, 2024 10:50:20 GMT 1
Had our fibre conection put in a week ago. We are a long way from any underground cables and deep in the country. So: the cables were sent along the existing telephone poles and near any group of houses a white box appeared on the pole with spare cable. Invitations then sent out asking if connection wanted. We said Yes!
Techician came to install it, he came to the house first to see where we would like the box to be. The cable was brought straight across the neighburing field to the side of the house (as it happens the opposite side to existing phone wires). Cable was fixed under the roof and then down to a hole drilled in the side wall just where we wanted and the box connected. All existing phone cables and points now redundant. Very happy indeed.
No suggestion that one could install it oneself.
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ian
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Post by ian on Jan 28, 2024 10:59:07 GMT 1
Great information there, people. Many thanks Looks like I can choose to have the new router beside my desk. Yippee. Cheers
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Post by Aardvark on Jan 28, 2024 11:32:20 GMT 1
Two questions. (hereford) If asked, and you say YES, are you charged for the installation? And how neat is the run to the point where you want the socket/router fitted?
I ran my own wire for the ADSL and it is all behind the dry lining to the telecom socket at my desk. Nothing exposed anywhere.
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suein56
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Post by suein56 on Jan 28, 2024 11:49:30 GMT 1
Two questions. ( hereford) If asked, and you say YES, are you charged for the installation? If you receive an email from your current provider asking if you would like fibre then the whole caboodle is free. The only charge is if you choose for them to connect everything up for you inside the house .. connecting telephone(s), laptops, computers, tv, printer and smartphones to the router. My friend decided she could manage the installation by herself and then rang me via mobile in the evening asking why the fixed phones didn't work and neither did her mum's Orange decoder .. it took a while to sort those out.
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Post by elsie on Jan 28, 2024 12:42:57 GMT 1
Two questions. ( hereford) If asked, and you say YES, are you charged for the installation? And how neat is the run to the point where you want the socket/router fitted? I ran my own wire for the ADSL and it is all behind the dry lining to the telecom socket at my desk. Nothing exposed anywhere. I suspect most ISPs will install the box without any extra charge as you will have signed a contract for a year or two. I'm not sure what happens when you change fibre contract and whether the ISP will want to change the PTO to their version? My ADSL cable ran below the first floor floorboards. The installer managed to use it to pull the fibre cable through as I wanted the PTO in the same place as the ADSL termination.
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Aardvark
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Post by Aardvark on Jan 28, 2024 18:11:01 GMT 1
Interesting info. Thanks My existing wire arrives at the house via pole across the lane, and enters the house via a hole I drilled myself. There is no gaine anywhere. The wire is one piece from the connection outside the house to the socket on the wall by my desk. I am not under contract to Sosh and could cancel at any time so my situation might be different. Since it fibre will no doubt get here via overhead suspended cable I doubt if it would be worthwhile. I get 8mb on copper and that is plenty. Paying extra for fibre and much higher speed would not solve the problem of the whole thing going down when a storm blows the poles down.
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