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Post by ian on Feb 14, 2024 16:18:47 GMT 1
I've decided to treat myself to one this summer. I know all the arguments against them, but I'm not getting any younger, and stacking and carrying 10-12 stere of wood each winter is proving onerous.
So, can anyone with experience of these recommend (or condemn) any particular stove or manufacturer? My main concern is the noise, especially of the fan. This is a very quiet house, and if I have to pay more for a quieter model, so be it. As I said, it's a treat.
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Post by exile on Feb 14, 2024 17:01:59 GMT 1
That's a lot of wood ian. Unless you are planning to install a huge hopper and receive delivery in bulk, you will still be manhandling about the same weight of wood as granules. You will also need somewhere to stock the sacks - lots of them. Indeed for a winter's worth about 10 pallets worth. You also need to think about how you will handle deliveries if they are full pallet loads and if you don't have a pallet truck. Looking at these issues is why we have not taken our thoughts on a pellet burner any further. You may well not have the same issues and may well have solutions.
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Post by mysty on Feb 14, 2024 17:59:09 GMT 1
Exile how do you come about the figure of 10 pallets. We are going to start a large renovation of a mill in about two months time. We are going for electric central heating amtec I think that's how it'spelt and a pellet stove. I know nothing about pellet stoves but did not think you could go through anything like 10 pallets worth. That's a lot of sacs to move.
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Post by ian on Feb 14, 2024 18:01:03 GMT 1
Thanks for the reply, exile. I know it may give me different problems.
Yes, I'll continue to burn a lot of fuel. But, A. I have lots of space to store it. At the moment, the wood is stacked on five pallets in an open barn - think tractor shed. Replace the wood with palllets of granules...
B. It'll be delivered on pallets, and I don't have a forklift. But, the shop near me does, and they've been happy to move pallets for me before (roof tiles) C. Carrying in and emptying a 15kg bag will be easier than handling a similar amount of wood.
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Post by ian on Feb 14, 2024 18:06:13 GMT 1
Good question, Mysty.
Rough calculation. One 15kg bag per day. from October to February - say 160 days(or bags). Around 50 bags per pallet. So, 3 - 4 pallets. Maybe 5? Very rough, but order of magnitude?
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Post by Aardvark on Feb 14, 2024 18:13:12 GMT 1
I suppose at least with pellets you won't be bringing insects indoors.
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Post by mysty on Feb 14, 2024 18:55:12 GMT 1
Ian that still works out more expensive than an all electric house. Our house in the Cher with a wet central heating system,hot water, boiler, hob , oven and micro wave costs between 1000/ 1300 for our winter electric bill. That's for a six month period.
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Post by mysty on Feb 14, 2024 18:56:59 GMT 1
I suppose at least with pellets you won't be bringing insects indoors. I think you have to clean the burner in the pellet stove every couple of day's. Source FB so must be true
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Post by exile on Feb 14, 2024 20:04:35 GMT 1
Exile how do you come about the figure of 10 pallets. 10 -12 steres wood is around 9 cubic metres = around 10 pallets of wood chips.
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Post by ian on Feb 14, 2024 20:25:17 GMT 1
Mysty, you're probably right about the economics. However, I've spent the last sixteen years with a stove in the main room. Flames (albeit behind glass). Before that in the UK, houses with central heating, but with an open fire for special occasions. I want to keep that experience, be able to look at something that's burning. An indulgance.
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Post by omegal on Feb 14, 2024 21:02:29 GMT 1
We've had our pellet burner for a few years now, quiet in operation. We bought it from Leroy Merlin who recommended a fitter, who did a good job, Granules a bois come with a pallet of 60 or 72 x 15 kgs bag, or you can buy them singularly. We were told that Nordic Extra Flame pellet burners were good, they come with a remote control rather than controls on the fire itself. For 25+ years we had log burners, in one property we had two log burners. When we moved to where we are now, it was a fairly modern house, no log burners just electric heating. After a few years we saw a friend had a pellet burner, liked it and decided to purchase one. Not looked back.
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Post by Aardvark on Feb 14, 2024 21:26:30 GMT 1
I was told by a friend who had a modern pellet burner that it was necessary to have the boiler serviced annually. One more expense on top of flue sweeping................ and yes, the fan was noisy. The friend moved house about two years after installing his pellet burner and he offered it to me gratis if I wanted to come and take it away. I declined. From what I saw of it being used, I didn't fancy it myself. And I wouldn't have been able to lift the bugger.
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Post by omegal on Feb 15, 2024 0:19:48 GMT 1
I was told by a friend who had a modern pellet burner that it was necessary to have the boiler serviced annually. One more expense on top of flue sweeping................ and yes, the fan was noisy. The friend moved house about two years after installing his pellet burner and he offered it to me gratis if I wanted to come and take it away. I declined. From what I saw of it being used, I didn't fancy it myself. And I wouldn't have been able to lift the bugger. Mine is modern but we don't have a boiler, put simply it is just a log burner but for pellets, no noise, perhaps your friend never had it set up properley? Why didn't the new owners want the pellet burner? I would have thought but as I don't have a boiler, the pellet burner would be away from the main room as it would need a bigger hopper and a heavier unit? but as I don't know anyone with a pellet burner that has a boiler (Chaudiere Granules) I might be wrong?
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Post by mysty on Feb 15, 2024 7:47:24 GMT 1
Exile how do you come about the figure of 10 pallets. 10 -12 steres wood is around 9 cubic metres = around 10 pallets of wood chips. Thanks, I wrongly assumed they used less energy than a wood burner.
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Post by Aardvark on Feb 15, 2024 10:52:01 GMT 1
omega: Sorry. I have not described the situation correctly. The unit my friend paid over €2000 euros for was not actually a boiler as such. Only a burner. It was professionally installed in the main room of the house (lounge/dining). Heat rose by natural convection to the upstairs living spaces. It was noisy because there was a fan and some mechanism that drops the pellets into the burner area. At the time he offered it to me there was no new owner in the frame. He knew it would be some time before he got a buyer and he was moving out ahead of time. From seeing it in use and being made aware of ongoing maintenance costs I was not tempted to take it.
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