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Post by jackie on Apr 7, 2024 15:06:18 GMT 1
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Post by suein56 on Apr 7, 2024 16:18:53 GMT 1
Perhaps Sadiq Khan needs to stand up to them more? My OH said the same thing to me this morning .. my reply was (sadly) that London might be a lost cause. Whilst it is known that cutting proximity to traffic reduces breathable pollution the car squad really don't care. Even the cyclists are at risk from traffic whilst using their designated cycle lanes. Meanwhile there has been some success in Spain too .. From Moreno : Ref: www.euronews.com/next/2021/09/16/what-are-15-minute-cities-and-how-will-they-change-how-we-live-work-and-socialise' We pushed a load of people out to the suburbs where property prices are lower. And we told them ‘ take the train, you can spend an hour commuting to work and you can be grateful to have a job because the world belongs to those who get up early'. With the '15-minute city', we no longer want to accept this situation.' More info on the world-wide cities project - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C40_Cities_Climate_Leadership_Group : first meeting in London convened by Mayor Ken Livingstone (that surprised me) in 2005.
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Post by jackie on Apr 7, 2024 16:24:20 GMT 1
I personally can’t see any downsides to Moreno’s ideas. For too long now cities and towns have revolved around car ownership rather than the needs of the people living there. Look at out of town shopping centres….
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Post by gigi on Apr 7, 2024 17:11:37 GMT 1
Yes, bravo Paris and anywhere else that adopts this plan; a city with a human face - borrowing from the Logis chain of hotels.
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Post by suein56 on Apr 7, 2024 18:07:59 GMT 1
I loved the bit where Moreno said man created these monstrously tall buildings/offices as a masculine way to show off .. Quote " The time of the skyscrapers in the masculine design is finished ” - I do hope so.
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Post by jackie on Apr 7, 2024 18:17:07 GMT 1
And affordable rents too which were controversial at first….
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Post by Nifty on Apr 8, 2024 2:55:25 GMT 1
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Post by Nifty on Apr 8, 2024 3:05:39 GMT 1
As fo garden cities, I think it was Cadbury was there first, but, as Rowntree knew, everyone loves a fruit and nut case.
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Post by Nifty on Apr 8, 2024 3:14:13 GMT 1
As for for ´Modest proposal’s ‘ Swift was their first.
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Post by jackie on Apr 8, 2024 9:55:50 GMT 1
Doesn’t matter who was first with the idea, Nifty, the fact that it’s being done is more important. Know all about the garden cities as used to live next to one (no pubs though due to Quaker planners) and the philanthopic towns in the UK bullt in times gone by. What is important, imo is that we need them now
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Post by Nifty on Apr 8, 2024 19:38:56 GMT 1
Where?
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Post by jackie on Apr 10, 2024 10:07:09 GMT 1
Eh? Existing cities perhaps?
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Post by jeliecrack on Apr 10, 2024 10:32:00 GMT 1
Most towns and cities were 15 mins places, if you think about it, factories were at the end of the street ,you could walk to work,it was only with the advancement of the personal transport and town planners who put industrial estates out of town, that it became the norm to drive to work.So really its nothing new.
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Post by Nifty on Apr 10, 2024 13:27:36 GMT 1
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