FFS
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Post by FFS on Sept 6, 2021 12:18:54 GMT 1
Just heard on the news, haven't had time to look for an article, but the mother of a convicted drug-dealer has been evicted from her social housing, and several other such eviction cases are pending in the Côte d'Azur. Personally, I'm not sure it's a good thing, on the other hand, if it gives dealers pause for thought...
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Post by ibis on Sept 6, 2021 12:29:18 GMT 1
Before marijuana was legalized in many states and still in some; having an single seed was considered "possession with the intent to distribute - a felony", a smoking pipe with resin was considered "possession", rolling papers without tobacco was considered "possession of drug paraphernalia" and any charges of "possession with the intent to distribute" they could take your house, auto or boat if that is where you "sold" from..
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Post by hal on Sept 6, 2021 12:35:25 GMT 1
Sadly, I do not think it does give dealers pause for thought. Drugs are such that any care to third party harm flies out the window.
I know what you are trying to get us to think, and like you, I am maybe torn. Did the mother appreciate what was going on is the question to be asked. But, yes, sad that soeone else is thrown out onto the street.
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Post by Veem on Sept 6, 2021 12:38:21 GMT 1
I suppose it's not beyond the realms of possibility that his (or her) mother might have been involved in the crime, but if she had then surely she would have been charged along with her son/daughter.
So assuming that the mother was blameless then this seems extremely harsh and unfair. It sets a precedent which could be a model for lesser (or more serious) crimes.
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Post by pcpa on Sept 6, 2021 13:14:54 GMT 1
The mother can not have been blameless if she was fined €500 by the tribunale.
En l'occurrence, pour les magistrats, la gravité des troubles a été suffisamment rapportée pour "caractériser le défaut de jouissance des lieux loués que tout locataire ou tout occupant doit respecter"
"Cette famille était connue depuis 2018 pour des faits de dégradation et d'occupation de halls d'immeubles, mais aussi pour du trafic de stupéfiants", souligne-t-il, précisant qu'elle n'avait jamais fait appel aux services sociaux. "Je ne cèderai rien face à ceux qui trafiquent", a-t-il martelé.
"Chaque locataire est responsable des personnes qu’il héberge, que ce soit un ami ou un enfant. Je veux offrir à mes locataires une condition de vie digne. Notre devoir est aussi d'assurer la tranquillité publique et la mixité sociale sur ces territoires. C’est une politique qui repose sur la fermeté et l’écoute"
As someone who was royally conned by a company supposedly paying for accomodation for a chef de chantier on local TP works, who were in turn blackmailed into doing so by the parents of the drug dealer fresh out of prison (Maire of a commune that gave them loads of work) I have been on the recieving end of this. But for my instant and robust intervention the other decent tenants would have suffered and left.
I just binned them off because of their behaviour, the dealing had not started, indeed it was only 9 months later I found out that he had just been released from prison, his girlfriend the mother of the toddler had also been sent to prison.
The only positive thing that I took from it was how the French can if they use the laws at their disposition make life really tough for these scrotes, this guy was banned from setting foot in L'Aisne where all his family and friends are for 5 years, very pleasing but like the family in the article it just puts the problem onto someone else in the private sector.
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FFS
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Post by FFS on Sept 6, 2021 17:22:45 GMT 1
It is my wife's view, and I can see sense in it, that she can't have been blind to what was going on, if he turned up with food, clothing, spare money etc, so in a sense she was condoning what he was doing. Most mothers aren't stupid, and turning a blind eye is often the easiest solution.
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Post by Aardvark on Sept 6, 2021 17:23:47 GMT 1
I suppose it's not beyond the realms of possibility that his (or her) mother might have been involved in the crime, but if she had then surely she would have been charged along with her son/daughter. So assuming that the mother was blameless then this seems extremely harsh and unfair. It sets a precedent which could be a model for lesser (or more serious) crimes. Hopefully it might set a precedent to inspire better parenting in the first place. |
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