JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Sept 26, 2021 10:19:48 GMT 1
There is a socket I want to get rid of in a bedroom, but all 8 wires seem connected, its fed from a junction box near the front door, but one feed into the box is the extension and one is the feed from the pole outside, i wont be able to tell which is which, is it safe to disconnect all 8 wires from the box, and not lose the internet which comes off another socket in the kitchen (fed from that same box) why are 8 wires required, and which two might carry the VDSL?
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Post by FFS on Sept 26, 2021 10:36:36 GMT 1
No idea, but if I tag robertarthur , he might pop in to advise you. According to the Home page he's online. |
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Post by pcpa on Sept 26, 2021 10:39:24 GMT 1
If it is the feed from the pole & it hasn't been made redundant by a new underground feed then you will lose everything.
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Post by robertarthur on Sept 26, 2021 10:40:45 GMT 1
The short answer. But just as in the 230 volt wiring there is no guarantee that everybody in the past respected colour codes. If you still have an old téléphone fixe it is easy to identify the two wires connecting you to the outside world: 48 V dc between them. A long answer, start reading.
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JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Sept 26, 2021 15:49:45 GMT 1
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Post by pcpa on Sept 26, 2021 15:58:18 GMT 1
If the cable at the top left comes from the telephone pole as I suspect that it does then you only need be concerned about the grey and white twisted pair coming from it which are terminated, I suspect that the others are not.
Trace your ADSL socket wiring back to it and you will probably find that another grey/white pair are connected to the incoming ones, may be different colours dependant on what cable was used, you need to maintain this connection, all the others can be removed on the basis of what you have said assuming that its wasn't a partial description.
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JohnnyD
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Post by JohnnyD on Sept 26, 2021 16:17:13 GMT 1
Unfortunately its not that easy, the cable top left is the feed to the kitchen which is where i take the VDSL off the socket there, the two white wires on the right are the ones concerned, one is the feed from the pole. and the other is the feed to the bedroom which I want to lose, they are twisted as soon as they exit the wall on the other side, so there is no way to tell which is which, so its a bit of a malarky now.....
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Post by robertarthur on Sept 26, 2021 16:25:50 GMT 1
@ JohnnyD, two wires for your socket in the kitchen are enough. A diagram with a modern DTI, not an old boîtier de raccordement. A question: wouldn't it be easier to have your modem as close as possible to where the telephone line enters your house? The shorter the wiring, the better. Supposing that there is a WiFi modem with a signal strong enough for the other rooms. Sitting around the kitchen table, laptops connected with RJ-45 cables to your Lifebox: it brings everybody together, but not very practical. |
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Post by JohnnyD on Sept 26, 2021 16:35:43 GMT 1
@ JohnnyD, two wires for your socket in the kitchen are enough. A diagram with a modern DTI, not an old boîtier de raccordement. A question: wouldn't it be easier to have your modem as close as possible to where the telephone line enters your house? The shorter the wiring, the better. Supposing that there is a WiFi modem with a signal strong enough for the other rooms. Sitting around the kitchen table, laptops connected with RJ-45 cables to your Lifebox: it brings everybody together, but not very practical. So I only really worry about the connections to 1 and 3 on all sides? the modem is only about 5 metres from that entry point RA, its not so much of an issue here as i am quite near to a cab I think, I get 80/15 ish constantly with no resyncs |
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Post by robertarthur on Sept 26, 2021 16:47:24 GMT 1
JohnnyD, the feed from the pole, two wires with 48 V DC between them in the case of a classic telephone connection (POTS), multimeter needed. The adsl brings it all (internet + phone/voip) connection makes it less easy to identify the feed. Trial and error I'm afraid. After identification you can disconnect almost everything, finishing touch only two little wires needed to bridge the distance between feed and the output to your kitchen top left on your connector block.
edit: our remarks, questions and answers are a bit out of sync, sorry.
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