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Post by FFS on Jul 16, 2021 20:08:23 GMT 1
What about parents abandoned by their children! That's where the French law gets back at the children; if the powers that be can identify the children, it looks like they, the children, can be obliged to pay for those parents they abandoned.
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Post by houpla on Jul 16, 2021 21:32:44 GMT 1
I can’t see anyone paying for me! I have only myself to rely on. But I REALLY object to them getting anything I have left to leave! Snap! As long as you've made a French will, 'they' won't In my case, once the pompes funèbres have put in their bill, there'll not be much left. I'm going to make sure of that
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 5:48:09 GMT 1
Oddly none of my mother's four grandchildren were asked to fill in a form or contribute and yet all are aged 40 plus. It does not matter where the "children" live but perhaps in our case the grandchildren were spared because there are two in the UK, one in Germany and one in Québec! They certainly chase actual children wherever they live. Not odd at all. The judge works out the amount due according to means testing. If the relevant information like payslips etc isn’t available from overseas then it’s impossible to enforce any order. It’s easy in France as the judge will have access to personal info etc. Who is to say any of the four would be liable anyway ?
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Post by catrose on Jul 17, 2021 8:06:11 GMT 1
What about parents abandoned by their children! That’s it - children can’t abandon parents here! i think it’s a good civilised principle to maintain responsibility between generations. Yes there will be cases that are patently unfair, but overall it spreads the financial burden. It is means tested, and I think you can argue that the person should not be in the most expensive EHPAD in the land. A friend of ours sadly died young, and was taken away from his mother as a baby for physical abuse. When he died the mother was still alive, in a care home with dementia. Her guardian challenged his will and successfully claimed a portion of his estate for the mother! So yes, sometimes it is very unfair.
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Post by catrose on Jul 17, 2021 8:07:36 GMT 1
I can’t see anyone paying for me! I have only myself to rely on. But I REALLY object to them getting anything I have left to leave! Snap! As long as you've made a French will, 'they' won't In my case, once the pompes funèbres have put in their bill, there'll not be much left. I'm going to make sure of that Surely you mean as long as you have made a will under English Law? That’s the only way to disinherit children entirely.
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Post by houpla on Jul 17, 2021 8:26:39 GMT 1
I'm not up to speed on how effective it is to elect for disposing of French property under English law. I suspect it would very much depend on the notaire. But I wasn't thinking so much of disinheriting children as ensuring that the State doesn't get it's paws on whatever
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Post by catrose on Jul 17, 2021 16:43:34 GMT 1
I'm not up to speed on how effective it is to elect for disposing of French property under English law. I suspect it would very much depend on the notaire. But I wasn't thinking so much of disinheriting children as ensuring that the State doesn't get it's paws on whatever The only way to do that is spend it all! (Or assurance vie but that’s much less fun!)
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Post by woolybanana on Jul 17, 2021 17:37:46 GMT 1
This law is positively 19 Century from a time when families didnt move around much and when there was little in the way of pension and social support for old folk. Nowadays it is an imposition on hard working folk to expect them to support folk with whom they might have few links, not like or perhaps not even be the offspring of. Time to scrap it all and get rid of these catholic residues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 18:17:31 GMT 1
This law is positively 19 Century from a time when families didnt move around much and when there was little in the way of pension and social support for old folk. Nowadays it is an imposition on hard working folk to expect them to support folk with whom they might have few links, not like or perhaps not even be the offspring of. Time to scrap it all and get rid of these catholic residues. And replace it with what ? The alternative is for the EPHAD or whatever to be paid for by the state which means US. That will push up our taxes or mean a reduction in spending elsewhere. I don’t wish to pay for the upkeep of other peoples parents if I can avoid it. Remember that parents with the means pay for themselves so in the case of my partners mother for example she receives about 1000€ per month pension from the SNCF due to her late husbands position.
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Post by woolybanana on Jul 17, 2021 18:24:50 GMT 1
You cannot impose upkeep of the parents on the younger generation. That is what pensions and taxes are for.
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Post by Crystal on Jul 17, 2021 18:50:12 GMT 1
You cannot impose upkeep of the parents on the younger generation. That is what pensions and taxes are for. They can...and do!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 18:50:55 GMT 1
Woolybanana
So you are happy to pay higher taxes to pay for it ?
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Post by Crystal on Jul 17, 2021 18:54:09 GMT 1
Woolybanana So you are happy to pay higher taxes to pay for it ? To pay for what?
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Post by exile on Jul 17, 2021 19:17:01 GMT 1
This law is positively 19 Century from a time when families didnt move around much and when there was little in the way of pension and social support for old folk. Nowadays it is an imposition on hard working folk to expect them to support folk with whom they might have few links, not like or perhaps not even be the offspring of. Time to scrap it all and get rid of these catholic residues. So the alternative is to: place "an imposition on hard working folk to expect them to support folk with whom they might have sod all few links, not like or perhaps not even be the offspring of." Because that is the alternative - it's called taxation.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 19:47:45 GMT 1
Woolybanana So you are happy to pay higher taxes to pay for it ? To pay for what? To pay for a care home with all the allied costs including magazine subs etc etc etc
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