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Post by Crystal on Jul 17, 2021 20:02:50 GMT 1
No, I'm happy for relatives to pay for it - as we had to do for my father before he died.
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Post by catrose on Jul 18, 2021 7:36:35 GMT 1
Remember that any demand to contribute to parents’ upkeep is means tested. Sure it might mean that a family can’t buy a couple of luxuries, or have that extra holiday, but they won’t be driven into poverty. I imagine that with more and more people (aka women) having worked and having pensions themselves this is also not as common as it used to be anyway. I’m certainly intending to be able to support myself up to the end.
It’s very much the French way to contribute, and is one of the fundamental duties of a French citizen. Same way you do for health care. What’s the alternative? Sponging off the State?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 7:51:16 GMT 1
Remember that any demand to contribute to parents’ upkeep is means tested. Sure it might mean that a family can’t buy a couple of luxuries, or have that extra holiday, but they won’t be driven into poverty. I imagine that with more and more people (aka women) having worked and having pensions themselves this is also not as common as it used to be anyway. I’m certainly intending to be able to support myself up to the end. It’s very much the French way to contribute, and is one of the fundamental duties of a French citizen. Same way you do for health care. What’s the alternative? Sponging off the State? Well yes catrose, that’s the alternative. In the UK many of the residents in private care homes are or were a few years back ‘DHSS’ clients where the state ie the people subsidized their stay. No system will be perfect but I think the French way seems fairer. |
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Post by Nifty on Jul 18, 2021 20:59:08 GMT 1
What’s the alternative? Sponging off the State? I one has to define need first. Those with few resources have no alternative. I suppose there is soylent.comor Soylent Green perhaps. |
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Post by Jo in France on Jul 19, 2021 12:42:58 GMT 1
I had thought that English will or not, the French taxes would be the same, so it makes little difference! In the U.K. I could at least leave what was left to whomever I wished. But…?
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Post by spectrum on Jul 20, 2021 10:53:23 GMT 1
What about children that was adopted from birth? should they have to pay or is there a cut off period of time, doesn't effect us but someone may want the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 14:22:38 GMT 1
What about children that was adopted from birth? should they have to pay or is there a cut off period of time, doesn't effect us but someone may want the answer. Yes I believe any adopted child is technically liable to pay, age and means permitting, as I understand it. |
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Post by hereford on Jul 21, 2021 11:41:27 GMT 1
I should have added to my original post that the amount a child has to pay towards the parent's keep can be noted in a special box on the next tax form and it does produce a credit - not as far as I can remember a refund but an allowance against your own income before tax.
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Post by ibis on Jul 21, 2021 12:03:04 GMT 1
I should have added to my original post that the amount a child has to pay towards the parent's keep can be noted in a special box on the next tax form and it does produce a credit - not as far as I can remember a refund but an allowance against your own income before tax. Yes, they would be considered a dependent, just like a child.
As they are considered a dependent, could not they be put on an insurance policy or as 1 on the state health care system which would pay for the stay in the old folks home.
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Post by hereford on Jul 21, 2021 15:11:18 GMT 1
IBIS I don't recall that the tax form said they were dependent, just that you can enter a "pension alimentaire" for the amount you contribute.
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Post by bubbles1 on Aug 4, 2021 20:02:43 GMT 1
I think the French system is dreadful - children didnt ask to be born and yes their parent may have brought them up well which they would do anyway cause they love them and then again the parents may not have been good and kind - why should you pay for someone you actually dont like and have nothing to do with and they dont have anything to do with you (I am talking from my point of view about my English mother so French law does not apply thank goodness).
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