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Post by Dominic Best on Jan 29, 2022 23:00:22 GMT 1
Do you have the proof of that Fu2 or it it a Guardian rumour? Oh look!!!
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Post by ibis on Jan 29, 2022 23:50:12 GMT 1
Just been reading on another forum of an american denouncing her citizenship.. What a tool...
Nothing in the world would ever make me do that. I cannot write what my reaction would be if I was talking face to face to someone and they announced that to me..
Good riddance. Don’t you have to pay to do it? That’s the best reason for staying à US citizen, saving money. she paid $2300
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Post by houpla on Jan 30, 2022 7:18:25 GMT 1
Just been reading on another forum of an american denouncing her citizenship.. What a tool...
Nothing in the world would ever make me do that. I cannot write what my reaction would be if I was talking face to face to someone and they announced that to me..
Good riddance. Don’t you have to pay to do it? That’s the best reason for staying à US citizen, saving money. Not forgetting the stunning educational facilities, DB
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Post by suein56 on Jan 30, 2022 11:01:16 GMT 1
Don’t you have to pay to do it? That’s the best reason for staying à US citizen, saving money. she paid $2300That's a very small amount. I think it can depend on your individual circumstances. I know my friends paid much more than that .. and, no, neither of them are wealthy.
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Post by Aardvark on Jan 30, 2022 11:51:35 GMT 1
The USA is the only country who seek to claim taxes from its citizens even if have paid their taxes in another country. So if you are an American citizen (or just born there) and sold a house for a profit in say France, the USA could come after you. There is a limit below that that won't bother with, but it is quite common to denounce citizenship for wealthy USA expats. I left the US for good in 1970.
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Post by woolybanana on Jan 30, 2022 13:21:35 GMT 1
Turning this discussion on its head, I rather feel that my place of birth has abandoned me as I no longer recognise so much of it.
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Post by ibis on Jan 30, 2022 13:25:15 GMT 1
Turning this discussion on its head, I rather feel that my place of birth has abandoned me as I no longer recognise so much of it. Says the person who left...
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Post by woolybanana on Jan 30, 2022 14:18:11 GMT 1
ibis, I have been an expatriate for two thirds of my life so my UK is always going to be out of date and perhaps romanticised. So I shall always be disappointed, perhaps, when I go there ( I use the phrase “ go there” rather than “return” which could be a dilemma if I were thinking of ever trying to live there). UK and I have diverged, it was inevitable.
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Post by houpla on Jan 30, 2022 20:24:55 GMT 1
ibis, I have been an expatriate for two thirds of my life so my UK is always going to be out of date and perhaps romanticised. So I shall always be disappointed, perhaps, when I go there ( I use the phrase “ go there” rather than “return” which could be a dilemma if I were thinking of ever trying to live there). UK and I have diverged, it was inevitable. Woahhhh! Steady on old chap! Too many big words there Can you economise on the syllables a bit?
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Post by Polarengineer on Jan 31, 2022 10:52:45 GMT 1
My leaving the UK 52 years ago was the start of my cultural education. One should live and work in as many countries as possible to be able to criticise the way these countries are run and while living there, adapt to the food, laws and culture of that land. That was the great benefit of the EU and its open borders and is now a real shame for the UK to not be part of that. I hope the fact that the Brits can't travel and work freely in another country (without big hoops to jump through) will encourage the will of all young poeple to do exactly what is forbidden and GET OUT and about. My own experience of these countries where I have lived has widened my tolerance to things and expectations are always met. My wife's family of three generations live in striking distance of each other (handy if it comes to blows). Nice people but even mrs PE thinks they get boring discussing tele and the neighbours. I am European. I would definitely not live again in UK thanks muchly, whereas there are no other countries that I would definitely not like to live for a while in except USA and Afghanistan.
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Post by Aardvark on Jan 31, 2022 12:02:14 GMT 1
I don't hold out much hope for younger generations getting the itch to travel like we did. When I arrived in UK people of my age saved up for one week in Spain every year. That week spent largely drunk. I don't think that has changed much today.
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Post by pcpa on Jan 31, 2022 12:49:09 GMT 1
Perhaps but the will of people of all ages to do what is denied to them will always remain.
The urge to travel and procreate is what has made the human genome so diverse.
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Post by lindalovely on Jan 31, 2022 13:54:59 GMT 1
Perhaps but the will of people of all ages to do what is denied to them will always remain. The urge to travel and procreate is what has made the human genome so diverse. The urge to procreate is on the decline apparently. The report I read said women are putting off having children until 30+ or not having them at all. I assume they also mean that men are doing the same since it is not a decision that is entirely down to women alone. Main reasons given are lack of stability in terms of work and home and lack of money. When I emigrated to Canada in the 1980s it was pretty easy. Now to do the same I would have to jump over so many more hurdles...travelling itself is easier but working and living overseas is much harder.
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